4P Set bugged

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I took another shaman on my server, actually 2, both have the BiS Ring, I don't. We agreed to all use 940's Prdyaz as 2nd, while they had the rings I had the boots.

We agreed to use Nightblooming Frond as Trinket + BTI.

ALL OF US are on 25 Haste and we vary from 71-73 % Mastery ( me being the one with 72 )

I do have the 4 Set,
one has a 2 set, the other one 2/3.

We made various legths, from behind the training dummy,
and I always ended up 1-2 procs LOWER than them.

Is there a chance our set is bugged?


EDIT: Results


Skilling WS / HH and OC, turning due melee attacks so it doesn't proc,
filling up with Rockbiter and then spamming Lavalash 100 times, seeing how often
SS procced ( should be according to 4P bonus @ 20 ) but:

Mutliple Runs ( in now total 10 on my own, 20 with other 4p Shamans )
showed ( results posted in threads )

that the Average SS Procs vom Lavalash pendles in at 14-15 instead of 20 ~.

Run 1: 16 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 2: 15 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 3: 12 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 4: 16 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 5: 16 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 6: 17 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 7: 16 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 8: 16 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 9: 14 Stormstrike to 100 LL
Run 10: 11 Stormstrike to 100 LL


EDIT 2 - thanks for everyone's input. It seems to be a combatlog issue, but since the increase from 2P to 4P still seems to be legit on sims and live, it's nothing else than that.

Cheers for the help folks.

[FelPlague]

"Okay, don't bullshit me, our 4Set is bugged for 100%."
ok seems you have concrete proof!

"We made various legths, from behind the training dummy,
and I always ended up 1-2 procs LOWER than them.

Is there a chance our set is bugged?"

oh... ok

[Ssateneth]

2 minute pop all cds on dummy fights does not count as concrete proof.

try attacking for at LEAST an hour straight, preferably longer, with logs, then come back

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2 minute pop all cds on dummy fights does not count as concrete proof.

try attacking for at LEAST an hour straight, preferably longer, with logs, then come back

We sat there for 57 tries in total, I think that is concrete enough. I have never been more than 10 + Strikes above him.
While using around 50-60 Lavalash each run.

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Edited, now go be productive.

[Murderdoll]

Noone, ever, in the history of anything. Has used 2 minutes as concrete proof.

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!feelycraft

[Deleted]

There's also the question of your skill level. One of you might not be playing optimally.

[Deleted]

Noone, ever, in the history of anything. Has used 2 minutes as concrete proof.

Where the f* did I say we made it 2 minutes?

The lengths were

10 x 2 min
10 x 3 min
10 x 4 min
10 x 5 min
10 x 300 Mill Damage.

We were always close to each other, I have never been higher than 6 Stormstrikes than anyone else.

To the question skill,
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...0/#partition=2 you can go judge for yourself I guess.

I'm just surprised that people, especially you as enhancements are not taking this seriously
that you get roughly 1 proc per 17 Lavalashes. Is that how you imagine a bonus 20% proc chance?

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17 for 1 that's weird

[Yunyuns]

Did you try using only Maelstrom generator and Lava Lash to see how often it proc'ed ?

(I mean with no other spell at all, nor CDs, etc.)

[Choop]

Nice logs bro :thinking:

!feelycraft

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Did you try using only Maelstrom generator and Lava Lash to see how often it proc'ed ?

(I mean with no other spell at all, nor CDs, etc.)

I tried filling up Mael, then only using Lavalash. In average, it procs after 9 LL's.
That is just not 20% for me, every 5, that'd be somewhat okay, or acceptable.
If that makes sense.

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Nice logs bro :thinking:

I mean they're decent, I'm happy with some world ranks that I scored, but I'm just a casual.

[Rusah]

Different talent builds?

Windsong has a higher than average stormbringer proc rate due to its increased attack speed.

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Different talent builds?

Windsong has a higher than average stormbringer proc rate due to its increased attack speed.

I thought I stated that all in the top,
nope we used the same builds aswell, aswell as same stats ( varied in 1%, as stated, 25 % Haste all, an 71-73 % Mastery ) and
we used the same Trinkets.

[Rouncer]

Rockbiter doesn't proc stormbringer. Spec WS or HH along with OC. Remove trinkets. Turn sideways so that your auto-attack turns off. Rockbiter to full. Lava Lash till empty. Mark every time you proc SB and then click off the buff. Repeat till you have 100 LLs.

[Deleted]

Rockbiter doesn't proc stormbringer. Spec WS or HH along with OC. Remove trinkets. Turn sideways so that your auto-attack turns off. Rockbiter to full. Lava Lash till empty. Mark every time you proc SB and then click off the buff. Repeat till you have 100 LLs.

Thank you for this.

Here are my results, everytime until 100 Lavalash

Run 1: 16 Stormstrike
Run 2: 15 Stormstrike
Run 3: 12 Stormstrike
Run 4: 16 Stormstrike
Run 5: 16 Stormstrike
Run 6: 17 Stormstrike
Run 7: 16 Stormstrike
Run 8: 16 Stormstrike
Run 9: 14 Stormstrike
Run 10: 11 Stormstrike

By the thing I should do here it should come out 20 SS to 100 LL, correct? That was what you were aiming for?

[Rouncer]

Should average out to 20 so does indeed appear to be bugged. Looks like 15% rather then 20, means 4pc isn't going to be quite the fix for our currently low performance. Hopefully the sim will be updated soon to reflect the real proc rate.

Thanks for testing it that way

[Deleted]

Should average out to 20 so does indeed appear to be bugged. Looks like 15% rather then 20, means 4pc isn't going to be quite the fix for our currently low performance. Hopefully the sim will be updated soon to reflect the real proc rate.

Thanks for testing it that way

Thank you for providing that tip.
I did run it again tho couple of times, just a new low of 10, a new high of 19 tho. So still pretty far away to "make it reliable"?

[Deleted]

have a few people test the same thing if possible - makes the results more realistic. and maybe do 300 LL per run

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have a few people test the same thing if possible - makes the results more realistic. and maybe do 300 LL per run

I'll get 2 colleagues in the afternoon then, will do and update