BM feedback

[Sencha]

Need 0% downtime. Need a spec where a noob pressing buttons randomly don't do the same dps as a player playing optimally.

[Threndsa]

Need 0% downtime. Need a spec where a noob pressing buttons randomly don't do the same dps as a player playing optimally.

Do you even play BM? There's a world of difference between someone who hits every button on CD and someone who plays the spec right. BM isn't the most complex spec in the game but there is plenty of mastery to be had.

Also 0% downtime doesn't mean a complex spec, or even a good spec. It just means blizzard decided you get a filler button where BM waits a few seconds.

[ydraw]

There'd be a lot less downtime if they'd just hurry up with the cobra shot cost reduction.

[Sencha]

BM isn't the most complex spec in the game but there is plenty of mastery to be had.

Like what?

[Threndsa]

Like what?

Pooling focus for BW/proper Killer cobra usage.
Proper AoE focus spending (when to still use KC, when to lay on multishot and when to only proc beast cleave)
Not wasting the BW CD reduction on dire beasts
When to delay BW or AoTW
Proper Titans Thunder usage
AMoC timing on adds to hit the refresh

Just hitting every button on cooldown is a massive dps loss. Im not saying BM is hard, because it isn't. But this isn't Wrath warlock hit shadowbolt and win either.

[Agallion]

Need 0% downtime. Need a spec where a noob pressing buttons randomly don't do the same dps as a player playing optimally.

Doesn't the game kinda need something like that though? Not every class can be this mountain to climb if it wants to retain old players being a bit casual and or new players just learning.

[Firebyrd]

Do you even play BM? There's a world of difference between someone who hits every button on CD and someone who plays the spec right. BM isn't the most complex spec in the game but there is plenty of mastery to be had.

Also 0% downtime doesn't mean a complex spec, or even a good spec. It just means blizzard decided you get a filler button where BM waits a few seconds.

Did you even play BM before 7.0? It was 0% downtime and it was a good spec. And BM does not wait just "a few seconds." There are frequent spikes where you can't hit more than one button for ten seconds at a time (finish off BW with a last KC and little focus, wait for KC to come off cd again, hit it, wait for it to come off cd again around the time DB comes off cd, and finally you get to start hitting some buttons again.).

Doesn't the game kinda need something like that though? Not every class can be this mountain to climb if it wants to retain old players being a bit casual and or new players just learning.

So instead we should just screw over all the players that enjoyed BM before? On top of all the SV players that got screwed too? BM wasn't a "mountain" to climb before, but it did have actual depth and it was actually fun. They even said it was in a good place. And then they wrecked it. If a spec has to be designated the idiot proof spec, why does it have to be one that was actually well designed? And frankly, the kind of players you're talking about fail at current BM too anyway. So, what, should we just have a spec where no buttons have to be hit at all for the casuals and noobs? Would that make a good game?

[ydraw]

I don't find complicated rotations fun. You can go play a feral druid if you want.

[Deleted]

If they want less downtime for BM, just half the cost and damage of cobra shot. It might raise the killer cobra damage and on the same go make us even more viable on ST. The we can spam it like arcane shot, which for some would make the casual BM as hard as hc MM

[Deleted]

BM can go to hell.

all hail survival

[ydraw]

If they want less downtime for BM, just half the cost and damage of cobra shot. It might raise the killer cobra damage and on the same go make us even more viable on ST. The we can spam it like arcane shot, which for some would make the casual BM as hard as hc MM

Yep this is long overdue.

[Banard]

Did you even play BM before 7.0? It was 0% downtime and it was a good spec.

what is up with this assumption a cast bar does not equal downtime. Sitting waiting for focus is the same as sitting waiting for the cast to go off.

[Zuul]

1. Fix Hati's AI to mirror your pet.
2. Bring back focus builder with Cobra Shot.

I agree with the previous posts, BM was in a good place in Warlords, and the addition of Hati should have added to it nicely, but then they decided a revamp was in order. Fail Blizzard.

[Deleted]

I seriously don't understand how with a quote like that, that guy still has his job.

Ive made several posts to him with constructive feedback, and shortly after changes were made to BM (ie the tier set) - unsure if related but i think he might have done something to help with this.

[Kaeth]

Am I the only one who doesn't miss having a focus builder as BM? The lack of a filler attack allows other abilities -- like Kill Command -- to deal more damage, thus increasing burst potential.

[Deleted]

BM can go to hell.

all hail survival

depends on the encounter.

[Deleted]

if you don't want to sit waiting, you can spec for WotC and AotB and you can then keep the focus under 50% all the time by spamming cobra. DPS is almost identical, the distribution just changes drastically from kill command to cobra shot.

The Killer Cobra spec allows you to burst and then do lower damage on those wait periods and the Way of the Cobra allows you do to steady damage without much of burst.

[Deleted]

Need 0% downtime. Need a spec where a noob pressing buttons randomly don't do the same dps as a player playing optimally.

Well i can asure you BM is far much complicated that you think
There is something calling timing you cant jsut midlesly push buttons and expect to have equal result as someone who time his actions especially in NH (later when everyone get ilv 900 may not see the difference much coz short fights)

[Geran]

I don't find complicated rotations fun. You can go play a feral druid if you want.

What did you find complicated in feral "rotation"?

[Kayagurcu]

anyone from US has tested new 10% buff to primary pet yet ? I am eagerly interested in numbers.