Day 13: Vetting. Neil Gorsuch founded/led a group called the ‘Fascism Forever Club'

[Manabomb]

People don't realize how much the country would spiral downwards, both economically and militarily, if the US lost the western coast and New York who would leave if Calexit happened.

Right? And the talks to leave on the west coast are getting more and more unified by the day. Even moderate Republicans that voted Trump are open to the idea, especially after the first round of EO's he threw down.

But the conservative right will just continue acting like there isn't a problem, that their policies aren't taking 15 steps backwards for America and that the Left are the fascists while they are busy stripping away LGBT, women, and non-christian religious rights.

[slitheroutfromtherocks]

Right? And the talks to leave on the west coast are getting more and more unified by the day. Even moderate Republicans that voted Trump are open to the idea, especially after the first round of EO's he threw down.

But the conservative right will just continue acting like there isn't a problem, that their policies aren't taking 15 steps backwards for America and that the Left are the fascists while they are busy stripping away LGBT, women, and non-christian religious rights.

Nah no Republican even a "moderate" would willing go with California the red counties would succeed and become their own state or join with Nevada there is nothing technically stopping them from doing that either. It's a liberal fantasy though leaving the Union is an act of war didn't you learn what about last time? If you want your guts to be used to grease the wheels of an M1 tank go ahead. After you get wiped out California would start over with much fewer electoral college votes.

[Yvaelle]

The denial is astounded. When members of the faculty at the time he was a student claim it was never a club and nothing but a joke, that many students partook in, you need reevaluate your position. And from someone who isn't even American, so who's opinion I couldn't care less about. Have a good day making tin foil hats.

If you asked Baldur Benedikt von Schirach about the Hitler Youth, I'm sure he'd also claim 'it was never a club and nothing but a joke, that many students partook in' - teachers at an all-boys private school have a strong incentive to make their school look good.

[Tomservo]

*Thing proven to be untrue*
"IT FITS MY NARRATIVE SO I'M GOING TO KEEP SAYING IT'S TRUE!"
Holy Jebus! Far too many fucking retards on this forum.

Infracted - Trolling

[cubby]

Trump gets someone who was in a fascist group many years ago on his team, everyone loses their minds.

All the leftist crybabies actually ARE fascists out in the open, stifling free speech & physically assaulting people, and nobody bats an eye.

It's awesome you use a word you don't understand the definition of. Keep up the perpetuating ignorance and hate. MAGA!

[Manabomb]

Nah no Republican even a "moderate" would willing go with California the red counties would succeed and become their own state or join with Nevada there is nothing technically stopping them from doing that either. It's a liberal fantasy though leaving the Union is an act of war didn't you learn what about last time? If you want your guts to be used to grease the wheels of an M1 tank go ahead. After you get wiped out California would start over with much fewer electoral college votes.

If anything, if Donald Trump declares "war" on parts of the country that no longer agree in it's leadership, then he is doing nothing more than declaring war on progress. Also LOL@ "red counties". They are more purple along the west coast, -if- anything. You're delusional if you think that Republicans on the west coast agree with the current state of our government. THAT's a conservative fantasy.

Edit: Besides, if it's civil war Trump wants, he's going to be the one to take the first shot. History will remember that and that alone.

[BannedForViews]

If you asked Baldur Benedikt von Schirach about the Hitler Youth, I'm sure he'd also claim 'it was never a club and nothing but a joke, that many students partook in' - teachers at an all-boys private school have a strong incentive to make their school look good.

Can moderates infract themselves for trolling? Not a single person from his school, either faculty or peer, has supported this claim. In fact they've pointed out that it was something allowed of them, that he was jokingly referred to as a fascist for having a conservative opinion at a very liberal place, and that many other students made up clubs they were in. And yet you say something this foolish?

[Yvaelle]

Can moderates infract themselves for trolling? Not a single person from his school, either faculty or peer, has supported this claim. In fact they've pointed out that it was something allowed of them, that he was jokingly referred to as a fascist for having a conservative opinion at a very liberal place, and that many other students made up clubs they were in. And yet you say something this foolish?

It's neither trolling nor foolish to point out that an accused fascist would deny any involvement in a fascist club. Denial should be expected, it isn't evidence to the contrary.

[slitheroutfromtherocks]

If anything, if Donald Trump declares "war" on parts of the country that no longer agree in it's leadership, then he is doing nothing more than declaring war on progress. Also LOL@ "red counties". They are more purple along the west coast, -if- anything. You're delusional if you think that Republicans on the west coast agree with the current state of our government. THAT's a conservative fantasy.

Edit: Besides, if it's civil war Trump wants, he's going to be the one to take the first shot. History will remember that and that alone.

Trump wouldn't be declaring war if you leave the Union you're declaring war. Not the other way around. Understand? It is an act of war to leave the Union unless it is legally approved by congress or the constitution is amended. History is written by the victors and you'll be regarded the same way the South was rebel scum and traitors that needed to be put down to unify America.

As for "conservatives siding with you" LOLLOLOLOL you live in lalala land. They would never willing side with you over Trump or just the Union in general. They might not agree with everything Trump does but they would agree with nothing a liberal cesspool Nation of California would do. Keep living that liberal fantasy that conservatives who don't like Trump stand with you and help leave the Union. You've been watching too many of those Hollywood actors on the youtube trying to get the electoral college to vote against him. That sure worked!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffer...Pacific_state)

After the 2016 presidential election, it was noted that most of the rural California counties which would belong to the State of Jefferson were won in a landslide by Republican nominee Donald Trump, whereas Democrat Hillary Clinton enjoyed a virtually unprecedented level of support in the rest of California, indicating a growing demographical and political divide between the proposed State of Jefferson and the rest of California. While Clinton beat Trump by almost 80 points in San Francisco, he led her by more than 50 points in Lassen County.[36][37][38] The election of Trump led to calls for a secession of California and a similar proposal in Oregon, where Clinton won the popular vote while Trump captured the majority of counties.

[Tsar Bomba]

If you asked Baldur Benedikt von Schirach about the Hitler Youth, I'm sure he'd also claim 'it was never a club and nothing but a joke, that many students partook in' - teachers at an all-boys private school have a strong incentive to make their school look good.

This is the left now. Race to print something untrue or out of context, get called on your bullshit, then scream Nazis until everybody forgets about it.

[Sargerasraider]

It's neither trolling nor foolish to point out that an accused fascist would deny any involvement in a fascist club. Denial should be expected, it isn't evidence to the contrary.

This is a logical fallacy, a derivative of a loaded question: e.g. "When did you stop beating your wife?"

There is no evidence that there was any such "club" by people who actually were there.

This is the left now. Race to print something untrue or out of context, get called on your bullshit, then scream Nazis until everybody forgets about it.

Pretty much this. Yesterday's gem of Trump killing grandma in Iraq vanished pretty quickly.

Waiting to see what tomorrow will bring.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Not that I agree with 100 percent, but it is nice to see that I'm not in a sea filled with fucking retards.

Yeah I mean what dumb cuck would condemn people for doing stupid things in their college/high school years and then quickly growing up and dropping it, like founding a fascist organization, or leading a radical feminist group?

God, what dumb retard would do that.

[Spectral]

Phrased another way, oppo research found so little dirt that they felt the need to pretend that a tongue-in-cheek high school club is a big reveal.

[Mormolyce]

Wow, this thread really brought out some people who aren't smart enough to hide what they really are. Doesn't the alt-right give classes on that?

Ok?

How about you fuck off and do something useful with your life?


[Infracted]

As a straight man, I'd fellate a thousand fascists a day if it meant everyone on the left was forced into California and Calexit as fast-tracked.

Wow, triggered. We apologise for invading your safe space.

It really doesn't take much for these peoples' true colours to show.

So were back to criticizing people for stuff they did in high school?

So that means we can start calling Hillary racist again since her mentor and best bud was Senator "Grand Cyclops" Byrd?

Are you STILL peddling this shit? How many times do you need to have it repeated to you that the left embraced Byrd because he REJECTED white supremacism? For precisely that reason?

This is willful ignorance at this point.

[Stormdash]

.... and it turned out to be bullshit. The end.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Phrased another way, oppo research found so little dirt that they felt the need to pretend that a tongue-in-cheek high school club is a big reveal.

And as dumb as it is, it's still more consideration/vetting than Republicans ever did of Obama's nominees.

[Mormolyce]

Phrased another way, oppo research found so little dirt that they felt the need to pretend that a tongue-in-cheek high school club is a big reveal.

It's the second least amount of evidence I've seen from an extensive dirt digging exercise, after some woman who they could find nothing on other than some improper use of emails.

[Darkeon]

.... and it turned out to be bullshit. The end.

I'm shocked as well. Eagerly awaiting the next conspiracy thread, based on rumours 'n hearsay, to pop out!

[Beazy]

Are you STILL peddling this shit? How many times do you need to have it repeated to you that the left embraced Byrd because he REJECTED white supremacism? For precisely that reason?

This is willful ignorance at this point.

That's funny, did you embrace him when he said "white niggers" on TV... in 2001?

Should I link the video?

[Yvaelle]

This is a logical fallacy, a derivative of a loaded question: e.g. "When did you stop beating your wife?"

You will need to explain how what I said follows the form of a loaded question, because right now it feels more like something you copy/pasta'd without knowing the meaning.

There is no evidence that there was any such "club" by people who actually were there.

There is evidence. There is written record (the yearbook). The prospective SCOTUS judge confirmed it, as did his school teacher at the time. They also claim that it was more a joke than a serious infatuation with fascism - but again - that does confirm it existed.

It doesn't prove that "zomg he's a fascist!!1" - but I never made that claim or anything of the sort - only that the club did clearly exist, and that his denial or downplaying of the severity of it is to be expected - and both he and his school teacher serve as biased character witnesses to himself and club he was president of.