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    Why are demons evil?

    Why are demons evil?

    Why do they follow death and destruction and chaos? Do they get off on it sexually? I mean whats in it for them to constantly attack worlds and give worlds a reason to unite and fight back?

    What are the main motivations for what they do?

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    Demons generally hate order. To them its a lie. Chaos is the true nature of the universe and that by bring chaos to other worlds they are doing the right thing. Sargears was once the titan in charge of defeating demons but after doing it for millions of years he became disillusioned with his task, no matter how many demons he defeated they would keep appearing. Using that as the basis the concluded that order was a lie.

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    I can understand them wanting chaos but why do they want utter destruction of every world? Is it because they want chaos but in reality they want order as in being told what to do by a higher power aka sargeras? Who wants destruction cause he is just a prick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Demons generally hate order. To them its a lie. Chaos is the true nature of the universe and that by bring chaos to other worlds they are doing the right thing. Sargears was once the titan in charge of defeating demons but after doing it for millions of years he became disillusioned with his task, no matter how many demons he defeated they would keep appearing. Using that as the basis the concluded that order was a lie.
    That was long since retconned by Chronicles. Demons follow Sargeras to "cleanse" universe of all things that can be corrupted by void. Idk why they have such attitude doing that (i mean torturing people and other), but i guess it's in their nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fsdhjte View Post
    I can understand them wanting chaos but why do they want utter destruction of every world? Is it because they want chaos but in reality they want order as in being told what to do by a higher power aka sargeras? Who wants destruction cause he is just a prick?
    The demons cannot defeat sargeras, they know this so they follow him (since he gave them that option) . Sargeras wants destruction of all world's to cleanse the void and maybe the universe can start over again, even if it can't nothing can be worse than a void corrupted titan in his eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by n7stormreaver View Post
    That was long since retconned by Chronicles.
    Chronicle only came out a year ago. Sargeras believing order to be a lie was retconned by the Warcraft Encyclopedia in 2006. He believed there was a fundamental flaw in the universe that order could only be achieved by destroying and remaking the universe without that flaw. Chronicle went into detail as to why Sargeras came to this conclusion.

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    Maybe the Burning Legion (the faction to which most demons in the Warcraft universe belong) has an as-yet-unrevealed motive behind what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrea View Post
    Maybe the Burning Legion (the faction to which most demons in the Warcraft universe belong) has an as-yet-unrevealed motive behind what they do.
    Most demons are independent of the Burning Legion. There are infinite demons, but the Legion numbers in the millions. The Legion only consists of the demons Sargeras recruited or created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Most demons are independent of the Burning Legion. There are infinite demons, but the Legion numbers in the millions. The Legion only consists of the demons Sargeras recruited or created.
    Well that explain a lot actually, we had even seen some deserters of the legion like the rogue eredar in the rogue campaign and some dreadlords/eredars in black temple in the illidan army and the shivarra of course

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    Fel is a cancer on life, those afflicted by it usually feel the need and desire to devour more magic and life.

    Many demons that you see would have probably been good people, if given the chance. Most of the Eredar weren't given a choice, Archimonde and Kil'jaedin made it for their people while Velen took a few away. And in WoD we see that even some of Draenei who died good in our timeline, turned evil in that one.

    It's also not like Decay, where good people do evil stuff and when they're dying, their good shows up for a final "Thank you for freeing me" moment. With Fel, it changes them, not just overlaps them, so it's still them when they die. We're not gonna see any demons dying at the last moment, thanking us, but that still doesn't mean that they are truly themselves. That's why Demon Hunters should be applauded for never giving into their inner demon.

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    There's cosmic forces that bring forth creatures that embody that force.

    The Light is about connection, empathy and the spread of happiness. The Void is about hunger, greed, domination. Arcane is about order, structure and complexity. And fel is about chaos and destruction.

    Sentient creatures have arisen from Light, Void and Fel. And arguably the Titans and Titanforged are the creatures of Arcane. Does that mean that they can't defy their nature? Not really. They are sentient and can make choices. But it is in their nature to follow their instincts and gain satisfaction from fulfilling their tendencies.

    Demons are inherently destructive. They see something complex and peaceful, and it gives them joy to tear it down. Things like societies, cooperation, and constructs that enable it like compassion and love, are alien things. To us, the things demons do are cruel and evil. To demons it fulfills their base instincts and feels good.

    That doesn't make them a Legion out to burn the universe. It makes them creatures that fulfill a natural drive within their limited need to satisfy it. They were a nuisance to the Titans. Upsetting the balance in worlds they managed to get onto. But they were never out to destroy the universe.

    Sargeras has been the one to unite them into a Legion with that mission. He empowered the demons with more fel, turning them crueler, more cunning, more violent. He gave them an organized mission. It is him that sent them out to destroy worlds. To corrupt more races into demons. He corrupted the Eredar to make his chaotic force more organized, with leaders that could actually think tactically and command armies. And to disobey Sargeras means death.

    His ultimate mission is to destroy every world so the Void Lords can't succeed in their plan to eat the universe. Do the demons share this goal? It is unlikely. None has ever acted, or even mentioned anything like it. Heck, the Burning Legion even used Xavius and the Nightmare in this expansion. Whose efforts actually were likely furthering the schemes of the Old Gods and therefore the Void Lords. So it seems likely Sargeras has not let Kil'Jaeden in on his goals at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxrokur View Post
    Well that explain a lot actually, we had even seen some deserters of the legion like the rogue eredar in the rogue campaign and some dreadlords/eredars in black temple in the illidan army and the shivarra of course
    While those deserters exist, they are still Legion demons. Aqua was referring to there being many many other demons out there that we've never seen before. Most of the universe hasn't seen either, since the Legion is the only known demon faction with the means to reach so far into the universe. Most of the Demons that exist that aren't with the Legion are most likely in the Twisting Nether, where we'll never see them.

    They also are weaker, less intelligent as it's said in Chronicle that the Demons in the Legion had their mind and powers expanded by Sargeras's fel basically buffing them.

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    Evil is always a manner of perspective in most things. They see chaos as the means to undoing an order that restricts creation to a limited path instead of allowing it to branch out and reach a certain progression. This path of 'order' has become a poison to creation and thus they have to purge the universe to allow it to grow though their views instead. From their point of view they are certainly doing the right thing. To put things right. At least that is how things started out and its players were turned to their current path but they undoubtedly now are motivated by things like lust and revenge more than pure chaos and thus are just a new order instead of a reign of chaos. An ultimate self defeating philosophy that pretty much all things have to eventually face in what would likely be a universal cycle. Order being over thrown by chaos which becomes the new order to be over thrown by an ordering force that eventually is broken by chaos.

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    "If good and evil are both a matter of perspective, then what is truly good/evil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    They enjoy ending lives and causing suffering. That is evil.
    So does the other side. So they are evil too. So we can concluded all sides are evil.

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    What really interests me is Lothraxion. Maybe he will give us more answers about their originality..

    http://wow.gamepedia.com/Lothraxion


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Which is the other side? Us? I don't see our side enjoying causing suffering and ending lives. We might kill when we have to but we don't kill for fun as a culture. Neither does the Light or the Titans. They kill for many reasons but not for the lulz. Demons kill because they enjoy it
    So we justify our murders "because they have to" in other words to prevent the order from falling. Demons kill to cause this order to fall because "they have to". I have seen just as many non demonic forces in WoW willing to kill than demonic ones. Deathwing was not demonic. Nef was not demonic. Even the old gods aren't demons. The list goes on and on. Even splinter factions of humans and other player races. They were not demonic. Even in your quest to 110 you murdered countless other npcs for mere progression and green loot aka your gain at their expense and I doubt they were all twisted and evil. That you absolutely had kill to for servival.

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    In the end we deem someone to be evil because what they do, they are evil to us because we are fighting against what they do because it harms us in one way or another.
    In theory, and like in other games that has happened, you can be led to believe you're doing good by killing but in the end you was being used. That does throw up the question of so who really is the good or bad guy? What does it ultimately achieve and was it a small sacrifice for the greater good? Again that kind of perspective and parallel then starts to throw the premise of what is good and evil. Was it evil to manipulate someone to affect the greater good, was it good to kill a small populous to prevent evil being greater?

    We can all say that demons are evil and unjust because we know as a concrete story-telling element demons are implied as the evil side but Blizzard have yet to give a greater picture, we're all groping for answers so things could quite literally be turned on its head. Do we know that Azeroth could in fact turn into another Sargeras? It's up to Blizzard how they want to steer the story-telling boat, that direction will completely change what we believe to be good and evil haha. It's the same thing as to why Azeroth was so special for years and now we know so in the end. All I can say to better phrase it is, yes demons are evil toward us on Azeroth because really have little choice in the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeBogina View Post
    While those deserters exist, they are still Legion demons. Aqua was referring to there being many many other demons out there that we've never seen before. Most of the universe hasn't seen either, since the Legion is the only known demon faction with the means to reach so far into the universe. Most of the Demons that exist that aren't with the Legion are most likely in the Twisting Nether, where we'll never see them.

    They also are weaker, less intelligent as it's said in Chronicle that the Demons in the Legion had their mind and powers expanded by Sargeras's fel basically buffing them.
    We had seen demons from the void like xhul'horac which served the legion and most of the race of the nether surely are allied to sargeras because the legion had a lot of explorers seeking recruits, just look at the demon hunter campaign where illidan is been tracking down by demons in the nether while he tells to his demon hunters to recruit akama

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsdhjte View Post
    Why are demons evil?

    Why do they follow death and destruction and chaos? Do they get off on it sexually? I mean whats in it for them to constantly attack worlds and give worlds a reason to unite and fight back?

    What are the main motivations for what they do?
    The TL;DR is that Sargeras wants to destroy the universe so the Void can't have it. Scorched... Azeroth policy.
    Cheerful lack of self-preservation

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