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    Help make Druids cool.

    OK, so I really want to play a Druid because they are very strong gameplay-wise right now. I also really like the healing and balance gameplay.

    However, I just can't get over the fact of how lame Druids are in general. Class lore really effects which class I play which is the main reason why I haven't played my Druid for more than a few months before quitting.

    I just see them as tree-hugging hippies who believe in the healing power of nature. I find that too lame to ignore. The thing that helped me a lot is when they removed treeform requirement from Restos (I hated that hippie flower-power shit so much) and the fat Chris Farley dancing Moonkins from Balance (I think there's a trait the removes that form and gives them a cool blue hueish glow instead?). However, I still think cat form is lame and bear form is lame. Elk travel form is lame. Owl flight form is pretty cool though. I still think the way Restos heal, using flower power is ultra lame. Their healing spell animations literally has flowers growing everywhere, which is lame.


    Is there any class Lore that makes them cool? I know Malfurion did some cool things, but the way he turned into Xavius' bitchboy this expansion knocked him down to cuck status in my book.


    I actually have the opposite problem with Rogues. I think Rogues are pretty cool as a class (stealthy ninja, deadly assassin, or cut-throat swashbuckling pirate), but find their gameplay boring and uninteresting.
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    druids dont seem to be your class.


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    Quote Originally Posted by High Priest Arafal View Post
    druids dont seem to be your class.
    That's not very convincing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    That's not very convincing.
    You said druids are powerful this expansion (I'd disagree but whatever). Your problem is you want to play a powerful class but dislike just about everything that makes a druid...well, a druid.

    They're about "balance", by which they mean nature if humanoids didn't interfere. The Emerald Dream is Azeroth if none of the races messed with it, and that's what they use as a measuring stick.

    Lots of goblins harvesting resources? That unbalances things... so much tree hugging and flower power is needed!

    Oh, and last I checked you can't make the moonkin form go away anymore unless you take a weak talent.

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    Maybe look at some of the old school lore? Like Druids of the talon and such... Might be a few things in there that can make you tolerate them.

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    a non traditional viewpoint is to look at druids at reverse-warlocks. Both warlocks and druids use a lot of life based magic, so you can RP your druid to be more about using life as a means to and end then their core philosophy if you want that way. A key thing to remember is that druids, unlike shamans, can take life magic BY FORCE, the whole balance and greater good stuff is just their excuse.

    Another way to look at them is servants of the titans, using the titans tools (emerald dream) to get shit done.Or you can look at thenightfallen and take a more mage like approach, thinking of it as mixing arcane with nature magic for mostly personal gain. Or look at non player druid factions like flame druids and the like.

    You could also play war3 or read some novels to get more backstory on wow druidism, but that seems like a long shot in your case.

    If you dont like shafeshifting, you can use apperance toys to change that, but yeah thats a hard one to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidFwuff View Post
    You said druids are powerful this expansion (I'd disagree but whatever).
    I meant gameplay-wise as in their rotation/mechanics is fun to play, not that they are powerful. Even though they do have unarguably the best tank spec and their heal spec is at the top of HPS in M NH right now behind only H Priests.
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    I gotta be honest, man. You sound like an edgelord.

    If the class fantasy is really that unappealing to you then I have to agree with Arafal; it's better to play something else. Alternatively, ignore the class fantasy altogether, but that might be difficult when the flowers are staring you in the face. Instead of griping about how 'lame' your new class is, leave it to the people who actually enjoy it for what it is. I'm sure there are other specs out of the 29 remaining (minus rogue and druid) that also have great gameplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    That's not very convincing.
    well, you dislike everything that makes a druid, a druid.
    you simply dont like the class.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Him of Many Faces View Post
    . A key thing to remember is that druids, unlike shamans, can take life magic BY FORCE, the whole balance and greater good stuff is just their excuse.

    Another way to look at them is servants of the titans, using the titans tools (emerald dream) to get shit done.Or you can look at thenightfallen and take a more mage like approach, thinking of it as mixing arcane with nature magic for mostly personal gain. Or look at non player druid factions like flame druids and the like.

    You could also play war3 or read some novels to get more backstory on wow druidism, but that seems like a long shot in your case.

    If you dont like shafeshifting, you can use apperance toys to change that, but yeah thats a hard one to deal with.
    Interesting, didn't know they could use magic by force. My major gripe about Shamans is that they are 100% dependant on having the Elementals like them and grant them their power. Thrall lost 2 times because of this. He lost to Garrosh because he was cut off from the Elements in SoO and then he lost at the Shaman order hall quest because the Elements wouldn't let them use their power after he used them to kill Garrosh.

    Good to know nature can't just deny Druids their power like the gimp Shaman.

    As for shapeshifting, I don't like that it forces us into a form that doesn't show off our armor. Kinda takes away from transmogging. I do like the Balance of Powe bear form though. Looks pretty cool with the glow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boomking View Post
    I gotta be honest, man. You sound like an edgelord.
    Stop triggering me or I'll cut myself again!

    But seriously, I just think the healing power of friendship and flowers is lame. The only 2 classes I find lame in the game are Priests and Druids. The rest are fine.
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    So.... You want to be convinced into liking druids, despite clearly hating everything that makes a druid a druid?.... Yeah good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Him of Many Faces View Post
    a non traditional viewpoint is to look at druids at reverse-warlocks. Both warlocks and druids use a lot of life based magic, so you can RP your druid to be more about using life as a means to and end then their core philosophy if you want that way. A key thing to remember is that druids, unlike shamans, can take life magic BY FORCE, the whole balance and greater good stuff is just their excuse.

    Another way to look at them is servants of the titans, using the titans tools (emerald dream) to get shit done.Or you can look at thenightfallen and take a more mage like approach, thinking of it as mixing arcane with nature magic for mostly personal gain. Or look at non player druid factions like flame druids and the like.

    You could also play war3 or read some novels to get more backstory on wow druidism, but that seems like a long shot in your case.

    If you dont like shafeshifting, you can use apperance toys to change that, but yeah thats a hard one to deal with.
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    Druids are eco-terrorists. Murder and destroy every threat to nature.

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    "Herp derp druids are not demon hunters"

    Nice blog post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Druids are eco-terrorists. Murder and destroy every threat to nature.
    Congrats, you actually made Druids sound even lamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    "Herp derp druids are not demon hunters"

    Nice blog post.
    Actually I don't really think DH are all that cool, they look and sound like they are true emo-lords.

    Coolest for me are Monks since they are the only class that don't really depend on anything to fight. They'll kick the shit out of you bare-fisted while wearing a dress. They don't need armor, weapons, nor depend on any outside magics. They use their inner strength and skills to get things done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Dark Shamanism, the Twilight's Hammer and the Taunka shamans all say hello.
    They force the elements to help them afaik, slight but significant difference. I also can't remember a instance of a shaman taking life force from a non element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    Congrats, you actually made Druids sound even lamer.

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    Actually I don't really think DH are all that cool, they look and sound like they are true emo-lords.

    Coolest for me are Monks since they are the only class that don't really depend on anything to fight. They'll kick the shit out of you bare-fisted while wearing a dress. They don't need armor, weapons, nor depend on any outside magics. They use their inner strength and skills to get things done.
    how do you deal with the fact that monks also heavily rely on balance and inner peace and hippy stuff like that? perhaps you can transfer that thought process to druids somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Him of Many Faces View Post
    how do you deal with the fact that monks also heavily rely on balance and inner peace and hippy stuff like that? perhaps you can transfer that thought process to druids somehow.
    Big difference between putting on some sandals, smoking some kush, sitting out on the lawn and calling it inner peace and actually training your body and mind through martial arts and meditation.

    That's like comparing a Prius owner to a UFC fighter.

    Edit: Oh and beer. Lots of beer for the BrM. They like beer and fighting.
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    monks acutally use the spirit of life...

    that's the element shaman use to communicate with the elements and heal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by High Priest Arafal View Post
    monks acutally use the spirit of life...

    that's the element shaman use to communicate with the elements and heal.
    Yes. I heard that MWers are basically a weaker Resto Sham because Resto Shams take their spirit powers from the Elements while MWers generate their own through their Chi. Chi is basically their life/spirit energy.

    Still though, Resto Shams can have their healing power completely negated if they lose contact with the Elementals/Spirits, whereas MWers generate their own power so they can never be cut off from the font of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saverem View Post
    OK, so I really want to play a Druid because they are very strong gameplay-wise right now. I also really like the healing and balance gameplay.

    However, I just can't get over the fact of how lame Druids are in general. Class lore really effects which class I play which is the main reason why I haven't played my Druid for more than a few months before quitting.

    I just see them as tree-hugging hippies who believe in the healing power of nature. I find that too lame to ignore.
    So don't play a druid. And learn how to write less cliche.

    Infracted.
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    Druids are by far the coolest class in the game. So, it seems you're hopeless.

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