Petition for J.K. Rowling to take in muslim refugees in her 18 spare bedrooms

[Aurgjelme]

I mean y'all do realize that people who are ok with accepting refugees into their country aren't doing it to force them into homes of people who don't want them, right?

I mean y'all DO realize that they either are housed in unoccupied spaces or families are taken in by people who want to.

You do realize that, right? And when you say or do retarded shit like this that it just undermines your entire opposition and make you look like a complete fucking idiot.

Right?

I don't even agree with JK Rowling on this issue but its really funny seeing her trigger all the alt-right, Trumpettes, and conservatives. Its really quite impressive that with Brexit and Trump, the conservatives have immediately became what they maligned for so long: children crying over literally everything and everybody who disagree with them.

#boycottharrypotter

Its time for us to bring back public book burnings I think. Really show people how much you're for freedom of speech.

Is this not force? xD You where saying what about complete fucking idiots?

[Deleted]

great idea unless she is a racist

[zenkai]

It just means that it's not really a democracy at all. You point at the fundamental problem of democracy, the forced inequality by the results. A simple majority can vote away the freedoms of a minority, which is a problem. That majority could then just vote away the voting rights of that minority, and they can never legally fight back. Democracy is the surest path to oppression.

The US is a democratic republic, just because it has limited on democracy doesn't mean it isn't democratic.

[Narwal]

I mean y'all do realize that people who are ok with accepting refugees into their country aren't doing it to force them into homes of people who don't want them, right?

I mean y'all DO realize that they either are housed in unoccupied spaces or families are taken in by people who want to.

You do realize that, right? And when you say or do retarded shit like this that it just undermines your entire opposition and make you look like a complete fucking idiot.

Right?

I don't even agree with JK Rowling on this issue but its really funny seeing her trigger all the alt-right, Trumpettes, and conservatives. Its really quite impressive that with Brexit and Trump, the conservatives have immediately became what they maligned for so long: children crying over literally everything and everybody who disagree with them.

#boycottharrypotter

Its time for us to bring back public book burnings I think. Really show people how much you're for freedom of speech.

Let's just be honest here, everyone is crying about everything. The left is crying about policies they don't agree with and attacking people on the right over them. The right is crying over the attacks the left are making on them.

[Klaiden Potugye]

Okay well that's the idiotic logic that gets us to "If you support refugees being given safehaven, you have to adopt one"

You never addressed the main point: Will you, personally, (along with Krazy) accept a refugee family into your house?

[Thalassian Bob]

Nice one! Signed.

If all these bleeding-heart champagne socialists want to make refugees feel so welcome, then they should be taking on the financial burden for it instead of forcing it on the taxpayer. If people like her had their way, we might end up with a housing crisis like Sweden's in the UK. Granted, it was apparently already bad in Sweden before the migrant crisis, but suddenly importing 100,000+ people into the country didn't help. And it hasn't particularly helped the people they've taken in either with sexual assault keeping female refugees locked in their rooms all day for fear of being attacked.

[zenkai]

Maybe she should just stop talking...?
Isn't that what you really want?

She should practice what she preaches. It's like this, if you say, "we should help the homeless" people would agree with you, yeah we should help the homeless. But if you're mega rich and say it, having more than what you ever need, then people expect you to financially help the homeless.

[Deleted]

come on we all know she would never ever do that, because deep down she knows what kind of people they are and what would happen.

if anything like this were ever to happen, said "celebrity" would use this as some sort of PR stunt with hand-picked refugees that do not reflect the actual average behaviour of a muslim

[Deleted]

I never really understood the notion of wanting people to take on the responsibilities of their opinions of how a nation should run certain things, in this case the refugee question.

[Miztickow]

I wouldn't want 18 strangers in my home. I don't care what country they're from.

[Thalassian Bob]

I never really understood the notion of wanting people to take on the responsibilities of their opinions of how a nation should run certain things, in this case the refugee question.

Because what they are suggesting has a economic cost for everyone in that country already (including other immigrants who are already there). And a human cost apparently, judging by the rise in sexual assaults and rabid lorry savagings that seem to be intrinsically tied to the migrant crisis.

[Whitedragon]

I mean y'all do realize that people who are ok with accepting refugees into their country aren't doing it to force them into homes of people who don't want them, right?

I mean y'all DO realize that they either are housed in unoccupied spaces or families are taken in by people who want to.

You do realize that, right? And when you say or do retarded shit like this that it just undermines your entire opposition and make you look like a complete fucking idiot.

Right?

I don't even agree with JK Rowling on this issue but its really funny seeing her trigger all the alt-right, Trumpettes, and conservatives. Its really quite impressive that with Brexit and Trump, the conservatives have immediately became what they maligned for so long: children crying over literally everything and everybody who disagree with them.

#boycottharrypotter

Its time for us to bring back public book burnings I think. Really show people how much you're for freedom of speech.

You do realize most people who vote for more immigrants don't want them in their neighborhoods right? You do realize that the people who vote for this shit and the people who end up having refuges dumped on them aren't always the same right? You do know about the towns that get overloaded with to many refugees leading to cultural sites being destroyed, and their proper citizens being to afraid to travel the streets at night right?

Its always funny how high and mighty, you people get, but when it comes to taking the burdens for the things you want it's usually pushed of onto someone else.

[Deleted]

Because what they are suggesting has a economic cost for everyone in that country already (including other immigrants who are already there). And a human cost apparently, judging by the rise in sexual assaults and rabid lorry savagings that seem to be intrinsically tied to the migrant crisis.

And they'll be paying that cost as much as everyone else, so I can't really see why somehow that shouldn't be accepted as a stance to have.

[ro9ue]

I'm not sure if nuance is allowed here but I'll give it a shot.

I love J.K. Rowling and her work. I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. Her commencement address at Harvard is one of the most inspiring things I've ever heard. I think her politics is a little annoying. I don't like Trump either, but she's starting to float out to sea with the rest of the liberal nonsense where they are practically fascist in their opinions of the right.

That being said, the people who are asking her to take in refugees are completely fucking retarded. Taking in refugees is not the same as housing them in your home. And JK has already been very generous with her money, I read somewhere she gave away almost 50% of her total wealth to charity. That's a staggering amount of money.

However, she needs to ground her views a little more in reason, which she isn't doing right now. Still love her though.

[Deleted]

Sorry but are people reàlly this retarded? Genuine question

[gamingmuscle]

The point in the argument is still that many of the vocal minority, most of which are wealthy, pander and demand for x, y, and z so long as THEY are not directly burdened by the result.

The point of their argument is stupid. IE you're rich so you must do more than just advocate. It's silly, and really it's just an attempt to censor her opinion cause more people seem to care about it then say your or my opinion.

Most people aren't affected in any way by refugees, and those that have been negatively affected are in the minority (I have heard of some, but not sure on their validity). And a marginal increase in safety as a nation is not worth turning away people in need. Maybe a better system of placement could rectify most of the "bad" experiences.

This is EXACTLY the same argument the left in the US makes towards the right about abortion. The right demands a ban on abortion but are argued to be no where found when the kids are then born and need financial support via welfare programs.

LOL the left's argument is bodily autonomy trumps right to life. Everything else are lesser arguments to maybe put a spin on in a way to try and make the other side care more.

[Northy]

I hope one day to be blown to pieces by a Muslim to complete the virtue signal circle. I can die with pride knowing that I did the right thing.

[Deleted]

Well this thread highlights a dangerous amount of idiocy...

I regret reading it all, if somebody doesn't understand how ridiculous the notion of the petition is then there's fuck all any possible way to debate this rationally

[Thalassian Bob]

And they'll be paying that cost as much as everyone else, so I can't really see why somehow that shouldn't be accepted as a stance to have.

I'd have to see their tax returns to know if they're footing the bill for the first part. But, judging the number of 1% types who are able to dodge paying their fair share of taxes through utilising loopholes and moving their money around, I wouldn't be so sure.
And on the human cost, people like JK Rowling are not the ones who are under threat when it comes to the physical and sexual assaults. This people most at risk are working class people in low income areas where refugees will be shuffled to.

Granted, you get the occasional politician or activist who does come under attack, but they are so afraid of the boogieman of xenophobia that they lie about the ethnicity of their attackers because the truth is too uncomfortable (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/pol...sex-attackers/) or they feel bad for their rapists because they'd have to be deported (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6975041.html). These people are beyond hopeless and we shouldn't be forced to share in their self-loathing guilt.

[Pony Soldier]

Why shouldnt they? People in europe are losing their long time homes to fit in refugees, or are being stuffed together in tighter and tighter ghettos, why should she be granted more personal space? Because she is rich? Because she is better tha the rest? Because you loved the potter books?

No, it usually falls to the normal, dirt faced plebs who already live in poor places to take the burden.

So you're saying that we should just ransack rich people's homes and just stuff Muslim refugees in there because why not? They're rich, they have a big house so obviously this problem comes down to them so therefore we are using their house as a sanctuary for these people and the homeowner, the one who actually pays for the house, has no say in the matter. That is some of the most fucked up logic. Do you even know how much money she gave away to charities? She gave up her billionaire status because of how much money she gave away. About $160 million just to charities. What have you done to make the world a better place?

This is why I can't stand these fake people who pretend to care so much about world problems like this. They talk and talk but they never do the walking. I say if you can't do anything about it then just shut up and worry about your own life. These people think that voicing their opinions on the internet is all it takes to change the world and they're also the people who will criticize others who don't feel the same or have the same opinions. Changing the world takes action. If you have done nothing but whine on the internet then you're in no place to downtalk other people for not wanting to help. In fact you're just adding to the problem.