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  1. #361
    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    It is BS to assume someone can't change their mind about what they want when they have never signed a legal agreement to do so.
    They can, but they shouldn't expect the man to support the child. If it was me I would, because you are correct, the risk is still there. But I don't believe it should be legally required. Especially if both parties agree to not want kids, and use contraceptives.
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    Ah come on Granyala, there's several possible reasons for it. A few that would get us banned here like pointing out a deficite in his mental capacity.
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    Man I swear, every time someone uses the term 'Critical Thinking' I want to pop em in the mouth.

  2. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by Bapestar View Post
    they shouldn't expect the man to support the child.
    They don't expect this.

    The government does.

    Because if the man did not take the risk of impregnating her, the government wouldn't have to support his child when she can't do it.
    Last edited by Total Crica; 2017-02-21 at 04:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Because its true.
    With that logic, many women are also parasites.
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  4. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    They don't decide this. The government does.
    Yea and it's bs. The woman shares the blame as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    Ah come on Granyala, there's several possible reasons for it. A few that would get us banned here like pointing out a deficite in his mental capacity.
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    Man I swear, every time someone uses the term 'Critical Thinking' I want to pop em in the mouth.

  5. #365
    Quote Originally Posted by Egregious View Post
    With that logic, many women are also parasites.
    And alimony/child supports allows them to be.

  6. #366
    Quote Originally Posted by Bapestar View Post
    Yea and it's bs.
    Sounds like an issue you should be taking to the government then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    Everyone has the right to bodily autonomy. (only you can decide who may use or retain the use of any part of your body)

    Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy by removing the use of the uterus from the fetus before it can survive without the use of the uterus.

    The fact that it can't survive without the use of a woman's uterus is why it will die.

    If it could survive without the use of a woman's uterus, it would be called birth.
    but it may survive with the use of the uterus, so, in turn you are removing its way to live, if you dont feed ur child u get charged with neglect and the child gets taken away, they recognize the fact that if you take away a person way to survive you get in trouble, its the same thing, you are in turn causing the childs death. and you can call it a fetus but it is a child, semantics semantics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    it may survive with the use of the uterus
    If it could, it would be called birth, not abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    If it could, it would be called birth, not abortion.
    Take thing out of context doesnt make them true, obvisouly it survives with the uterus without birth, othersie it wouldnt survive at all
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  10. #370
    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    you are removing its way to live
    Yes, I am.

    No one can continue to use my body without my consent.

    If you wish to allow a fetus to continue to use your body, you are free to consent if one is using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    Yes, I am.

    No one can continue to use my body without my consent.

    If you wish to allow a fetus to continue to use your body, you are free to consent if one is using it.
    you are removing a childs way to live, you are killing it, you are free to kill anyone you wish, but that doesnt mean you wont be charged with murder
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  12. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    Take thing out of context doesn't make them true, obviously it survives with the uterus without birth, othersie it wouldnt survive at all
    Sorry, misread that to be "without".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    you are removing a childs way to live, you are killing it, you are free to kill anyone you wish, but that doesnt mean you wont be charged with murder
    I am not killing anyone by removing the use of my body from them.

    I am letting them die.

    I don't care if YOU need to continue use my body in order to live, you don't get to continue to use my body if I don't want you to.

    I am not a hero "on demand" for anyone. I am not your personal incubator that you can keep plugged in whenever you decide to do so.

    You only get to use my body when I say OK, not when you tell me to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    Sorry, misread that to be "without".

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    I am not killing anyone by removing them from my body.

    I am letting them die.

    I don't care if YOU need to continue use my body in order to live, you don't get to continue to use it if I don't want you to.

    I am not a hero "on demand."
    you are the reason the person died, that is its lowest form involuntary manslaughter,you chose to create that person, you have NO RIGHT, to end their life, you entered that contract when you had sex without proper protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    Sorry, misread that to be "without".

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    I am not killing anyone by removing the use of my body from them.

    I am letting them die.

    I don't care if YOU need to continue use my body in order to live, you don't get to continue to use my body if I don't want you to.

    I am not a hero "on demand" for anyone. I am not your personal incubator that you can keep plugged in whenever you decide to do so.

    You only get to use my body when I say OK, not when you tell me to.
    Actually, you are killing them.

    Abortion is literally killing the fetus. Not letting it die. letting it die would be removing it from the uterus without killing it.

  15. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    you are the reason the person died
    So, you are saying if I need to use YOUR body in order to live and you say NO to me, you are the reason I die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    Abortion is literally killing the fetus.
    If it could live without the use of my uterus, that would be call BIRTH, not abortion. Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, not a fetus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    So, you are saying if I need to use YOUR body in order to live and you say NO to me, you are the reason I die?
    you are not my child, i didnt have sex with someone knowing that it may result in having a child(you), you are that childs caretaker and you are knowingly removing the thing that will make them live, that is being reckless or criminal negligent, which meets the defintion of involuntary manslaughter
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    Hmm. Isn't she the same one that suggested Church attendance should be mandatory?

  18. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    the definition of involuntary manslaughter
    Either others can decide who can retain the use of your body or they can't. Which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    Either others can decide who can retain the use of your body or they can't. Which is it?
    you create the parameters of the agreement by knowing that a child will develop if you have sex, if one does, then you know the parameters that may make that childs life fesible, once you take away the way for that person way of living you are criminalyl negligent for its death
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  20. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    you create the parameters of the agreement
    I did not agree to let a fetus retain the use of my body.

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