How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
A simple lol will answer that, stop baiting people, the first part of that comment i will answer, the second part is simply trying to get a rise out of me/inciting/ bad trolling(way to obvious maam/sir)
As to the first part anyone can legally do what they want in regards to mocking as long as it isnt public.
And, since you consider somethig like that "simply mocking" lets look at some other scenarios, even giving a real life, recent, example.
If someone takes symbology of a region/religion/race and burns it, lets give an example...say a symbolic headdress of a native american tribal chief. Would that be a hate crime?
How about a similar but extremely mild version of what that man did, bring in RL example, youtuber pewdiepie had made a joke about jewish people, even though he has jewish friends, all of a sudden he was in middle of a media shitstorm, disney dropped him, another one did, youtube canceled a season of scare pewdiepie or something like that.
Over a simple joke, about a religion.
From a person apparently known to push jokes considered bad form.
This guy, in all seriousness, not even joking, attacks an entire faith? I dont even specifically beieve in god, more of a traditional agnostic(i believe in a higher power, but whether god, gods, aliens, flying spaghetti monster, idgaf, idk)
So not even religious, and i am greatly upset by that pos, if he wants to burn a flag/book/headdress/whatever, in the privacy of his home with his friends, i wouldnt care, but publically doing that, in a non joking manner, going out of his way to buy a copy of the quran, filming and burning it, he was specifically trying to insult an entire culture of people, humans.
Saying religions dont matter for hate crimes, is like saying it doesnt matter if that guy/girl who is homosexual gets hazed, because even if sexuality is either/or a state of mind or genetic, it's singling out someone for their beliefs(religious or sexual) it's as bad as singling out (edited this out but insert stereotypes based off of region...it was a bit to...controversial for mmo-champion)
Thing is, he applied something that should only of applied to an extremely small portion of the worlds population(less that .00001% im positive) to the entire religion which accounts for nearly a quarter of the worlds population.
That is exactly like saying all athiests are heartless immoral pigs and should use /religious book/ as a moral guide.
Sure it may be true in a small small number of cases, saying all athiests are immoral(or put whatever word in there fits you)
Is just wrong, the same reason an athiest can have morals, is the same reason nealry all muslims are actually good, it comes down to free will, and the human condition. There are exceptions to that ideology in ever color creed nation and race, we call them people with the more severe forms of mental conditions, in short, the crazies.
A crazy X might do Y to someone who's a Z, whereas a sane person wouldnt do Y, because its heinous.
Still I cry, tears like pouring rain, Innocent is my lurid pain.
In this context dialogue means expressing content.
Free speech is about expressing content, not style.Or are you saying that freedom of speech is only important for stuff you think that matters?
I'm not in favor of the seven dirty words, but they don't inhibit your ability to express content.
I'm not legally allowed to express my opinions about Islam in most of Europe, but i'm allowed to say fuck on tv, or I'm allowed to say things like, This, - The irony over getting an infraction there amuses me, though it was fair, i should have said Islamist (though i have little doubts that wouldn't have resulted in an infraction anyway)
But i'm not allowed to say fuck on TV and instead must say intercourse or damn.
I'm going with the minor inhibition of style thank you.
I think it's not a matter of burning a book, but the fact someone made an anti-religion manifest out of it.
The "blasphemy" laws are more about people not antagonising each other because of religion. And that's exactly what the guy did.
I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.
I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.
No (?) but in the context of this thread
In Denmark you can paint pictures of Muhammed with explosives and mass distribute them insinuating all muslims are terrorists
I may not be in favor of this particular law but lets not paint this thing as something it is not, Denmark is not how this thread present it
But only if you are a christian.
Then they take you to court.
(meanwhile no one gave a shit that some journos recorded Imams saying worse things regularly, nope ignore that).
You get that Core parts of Islam is fundamentally incompatible with what the west defines as freedom right?
Not just the militant ISIS wing, the rest of it.
Not everywhere, some places in the eu, are designing laws that make it harder/impossible to say inflammatory comments designed to trigger people, it seems to me as an extension of anti-bullying laws.
I dont know denmarks laws specifically nor care to peruse them to find out, but you cant give a blanket statement like that when talking about other countries, it apparemtly IS illegal there, i am just saying it should be a hate crime, not a...blasphemy crime.
Or heh...maybe even both, religions deserve as much protections as anything else.
Btw, blasphemy under the law vs religious, could be as different as a wedding by signing a document in court vs in a church, completely serparate things with completely different meanings (court-you want taxes together and co-ownership of property vs, church-want souls to be linked/lifelong partners...meh plethora of promises)
I do not know the wording of the law, so i'm in no position to say, be positive if he can defend himself using international law that denmark is legally obligated to uphold he WILL.
Btw, when i say he should be charged, not saying he should serve time, maybe community service/ having to take a sensitivity class for the emotionally ignorant.
Like a...defensive driving course for your heart)
Still I cry, tears like pouring rain, Innocent is my lurid pain.
I'm not getting your point here. Are they going to prosecute you if you say that horrible thing, but not in the name of religion? As in the court?
What kind of law allows that? From what I know blasphemy laws are centered around disallowing people to deface religious symbols with the purpose of offending said religion. How does that apply to the situation you presented?
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I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.
I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the problem!
Since when is it illegal to burn a book?