Trump White House Considering Military Strikes against North Korea

[Kellhound]

I wonder how many of those would be needed to counter. Would need to know how many times one can fire and reload artillery, in the time it takes to load one of those 20 rocket launchers, then multiply that difference by 500. I think it would be an absurd number of those launchers they'd need.

NK has over 5000 artillery pieces 122mm and greater. Rate of fire depends on the system, but figure most of them can fire at least 5 rounds a minute for a few minutes before slacking off and/or suffering from counter-battery fire. So that is a possible 25,000+ rounds per minute for, say, 10 minutes. Thats 250,000 rounds. Granted, not nearly that many guns would actually be in place and firing, but it does show the numbers nicely.

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Not one. 10,000 of those.

Armed with this.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...VX+nerve+agent
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=mustard+gas
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sarin+gas


And by the way, the main gun on the US M109 Paladin Self Propelled artillery, is a 155 mm Howitzer, a modified version of the same gun used by the US Army since Vietnam, that traces it's roots back to 1942. Lots of guns like these, ranging from 105mm upwards, basically destroyed Europe.

Oh and in 20th century warfare, more troops died to artillery than from firearms, bombing or armored fighting.

Artillery is know as The King of the Battlefield for a reason.

[Skroe]

And you dont think that can be accurately fired and level your entire house and wipe you from existence why? I could still kill someone with a gun made in ww2 as i could with one made today.

Some of the best guns ARE from around that period.

M14 Rifle, 1954.


M14 Rifle, 2011

[Azadina]

You know, the South Koreans have had over 60 years to consider maybe rebuilding their capital in a safer place. I mean, I understand that it might be silly to discount proven weapons technology just because it's old, but come on, the big existential threat posed by North Korea is this?

The thing is, stuff is just as deadly now, as it was back then. We humans are just as physically frail as 2000 years ago. Swords and arrows are just as deadly as back then. So are bullets, bombs, artillery and nukes (even that is old technology now). We humans haven't developed natural resistance to any of those.

[Deleted]

Hillary wanted a moronic war in Syria over Aleppo that could have led to WW3 over something as meaningless as supporting the rebels.

Oh, so a military strike on a country (still) supported by China would end up with tea and medals by the afternoon?

[Nemrod]

Well i guess being alive was overated anyway

Its not North Korea that scares me its FUCKING CHINA!!

I am neither scared by North Korea nor China.
Only by US imperial global strategy. With the new president more now than before.

[Deleted]

Neither NATO nor EU would get involved as the USA would have attacked Russia first and not the opposite. The article 5 is enabled only if an ally gets attacked. In Syria's case its USA who is the aggressor

So, you are sugesting the US attack first... on Syrian soil?... where theres no Russian troops? Or you mean some sort of aircraft battle? This all sounds incredibly unlikely.

[Deleted]

Hillary wanted a moronic war in Syria over Aleppo that could have led to WW3 over something as meaningless as supporting the rebels.

North Korea in comparison IS a threat. It's an existential threat to South Korea, to Japan and given China's stance on it: To Taiwan. Consideration of options is not pushing for war...but it seems there's no diplomacy that can be had with the North.

Stop calling al qaida for "rebels"

North Korea isn't a threat to China n Russia so clearly Japan is doing something wrong

[Exeris]

You have probably talked about this already so sorry if you have to repeat yourselves.

I was wondering how far inland their artillery can wreak havoc?

If they released all their artillery what kind of devastation could they make?

[Skroe]

I am neither scared by North Korea nor China.
Only by US imperial global strategy. With the new president more now than before.

2020 says "2016, Hold My Beer"

[Deleted]

False news, becomes pretty boring now guys.

Last month it was Iran Trump had moved the US forces to Iran last time and it was BS.

And because they have nukes nobody will attack them till they use one on another country.

Wow! I guess it was obvious, but i'm still surprised guys like you exist.

None of it is fake news. The news were the missile that NK fired on the sea. That is very true news.

The rest was presented as speculation.

[CostinR]

Oh, so a military strike on a country (still) supported by China would end up with tea and medals by the afternoon?

No. It would end in millions of people dead, escalate tensions between the US and China and destroy the stability of Asia.

But it's likely inevitable at this stage. North Korea is not a rational actor.

[Kellhound]

Stop calling al qaida for "rebels"

Would you prefer "opposition forces" or "the non-state actors"?

[Deleted]

Would you prefer "opposition forces" or "the non-state actors"?

U support a qaida, Kell?

[Nemrod]

2020 says "2016, Hold My Beer"

I am already depressed and you ain't making it any better...

[markos82]

Yes! Of course it would.

How do you sugest they would wage war with the US? Go through all of europe and NATO first?

You think NATO will do anything, lol....

[Skroe]

You have probably talked about this already so sorry if you have to repeat yourselves.

I was wondering how far inland their artillery can wreak havoc?

If they released all their artillery what kind of devastation could they make?

North Korean artillery is rocket assisted and has a 40 mile range. That is not a coincidence. Seoul is 35 miles from the border.

As for what is in them, it can vary from explosive to nerve gas (VX), to blistering agent (mustard gas), to who knows what else.

Beyond artillery, North Korea has many types of ballistic missiles that would carry much of the same thing.

[Deleted]

Retreat from the capital? Lol You just lost the war, congratulations.

It's not an invasion...

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You think NATO will do anything, lol....

I think the Russians will have a tough time moving into the US without allies. It's a freaking half a globe away and theres all kinds of bureocracy and resources necessary to mount such an operation. Negotiations would have to be made for safe transit or more wars would have to be fought. All this cause of Syria?! I think not.
Unlike the current US president, Puttin isn't stupid. He will just find another way to retaliate.

[Skroe]

I am already depressed and you ain't making it any better...

Well look at it this way: the entire fictional Decepticon Empire has a more practical goal and a more consistent set of ideals than Donald Trump and the alt-right.

We're already lead by a TV-President. A fictional character wouldn't be that much different.

[Kellhound]

U support a qaida, Kell?

I support calling them what they are in context of a civil war. Especially given the "legal" government of Syria is not much better in its conduct of war.

[Exeris]

North Korean artillery is rocket assisted and has a 40 mile range. That is not a coincidence. Seoul is 35 miles from the border.

As for what is in them, it can vary from explosive to nerve gas (VX), to blistering agent (mustard gas), to who knows what else.

Beyond artillery, North Korea has many types of ballistic missiles that would carry much of the same thing.

Thank you.

One more: If North Korea forced us to take action now(like invading the south), what would be the current most likely way for us to deal with them?