New hero - Orisa

[zito]

Her ultimate is weird to me. Were they just trying to give an alternative to ana? IDK feels out of place

[Jessicka]

Had a few matches against her, and she is ridiculously easy to headshot, that could be a problem. Got a match with her though, and I think her kit is pretty cool, I like that you can throw the barriers some way ahead, and grabbing people out of cover with the Halt thing is sweet. That said, I don't think another 100HP would do anyone any harm to be honest, she does feel really quite squishy.

[DeadmanWalking]

I'm not that impressed with her playstyle. yanking people around is fun but I do not really feel like a tank and you have to fire at where the opponent will be to hit them as the rounds travel slowly. If your opponent is forced to run straight at you they are dead, but hitting a strafing target is going to take some foresight.

[NoiseTank13]

checked her out and she's a lot of fun. Loads of tactical use of her abilities and she's very useful for nailing the links of tracer, genji and a dancing Lucio

btw looks like Shadman had created art of her almost instantly. God damn.

Shadman is not of this reality.

[Jessicka]

I'm not that impressed with her playstyle. yanking people around is fun but I do not really feel like a tank and you have to fire at where the opponent will be to hit them as the rounds travel slowly. If your opponent is forced to run straight at you they are dead, but hitting a strafing target is going to take some foresight.

Her gun is pretty similar to DVa Pilot's or Mercy's, the projectiles are a little faster, but you get used to leading your shots.

[derpkitteh]

Shadman is not of this reality.

truly the hero we deserve.

[Keile]

Honestly, with Orisas theme of protection....her Ultimate should provide Damage Mitigation to allies, not damage boost.

[Dejo93]

smacks lips profusely
SO HOL UP HOL UP
killsteals
SO U BE SAYIN
gets jiggy wit it
SO HOL UP U BE SAYIN
eats a healthkit
AYYYOOOO SO U BE SAYIN
checks for nearest payload
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collects comp. points
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licks teeth then smacks lips
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does the crip walk
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opens up a 40 and pours some for her homies lucio and doomfist
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tweets about dis and goes to check in with her commanding officer
WE WUZ
dindu nuffins
FINNA WE WUZ
sucks air through teeth
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pulls up sagging skill ranking
SO WE WUZ
instinctively looks around for flankers
SO U SAYIN WE WUZ
dies and then gets rez’d repeatedly
SOM FINNA
scopes dem legendaries
SO WE WUZ
shouts at teammates
SOM FINNA
chucks omnic balls
AYYOOO SOM FINNA
sets down cotton bale
HOL UP
strokes comp. rank pensively
WE WUZ
throws up clan sign
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swings from basket ball hoop in ship
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grabs crotch and shuffles left and right
SOM FINNA
participates in drive by feeding
HOL UP MUH NIGGUH
converts to shambalism
U SAYIN WE WUZ
repeated ggez yelling in background
SOM FINNA
sells beta access codes
HERREOOOOOOOOOEZ N SHEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
moves up from bronze ranking

[Jessicka]

I only got to play that one match with her, but all the others where I was beaten to instalock haven't really convinced me. She's far too squishy, and too slow for Attack. Mostly matches were decided by the Reinhardts and DVas. Could just be people aren't used to her, but for me, immobility and squishiness do not make for a good combination. It's so easy to get around her planted shield. She absolutely does not fit the Reinhardt 'anchor' role they were talking about.

Then I got tired and kept being grouped with people testing their bots and wall hacks :/

[DeadmanWalking]

She is supposed to be an anchor tank but isn't, hell I don't even consider her a tank. With Rhardt people act like his barrier is a physical wall, like they have to stay on the other side of it when they could just walk though it. Orisa isn't a wall at all, nor does she feel like she can hold a spot. I love games where I can wield a SAW because I naturally do headshots from the hip but I just don't feel this one.

[Deleted]

Did anyone else notice that Orisa has the same model as the Warcraft Pit Lord?

Obviously no tail, but everything else is there including the horns.

[Deleted]

A four legged robot with banana tusks? Why the fuck not.

[TriHard]

Everyone hating on her, yet she is the most unique hero we've gotten so far. I like her! I especially like the dark / neon green skin.

And she is fun to play around with :>

[Jessicka]

Did anyone else notice that Orisa has the same model as the Warcraft Pit Lord?

Obviously no tail, but everything else is there including the horns.

A few people, others have compared her to the Ultralisk.

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Anyhow, I had a play around on PTR yesterday, and these were my thoughts:

I played a fair bit of PTR yesterday, and this is what I noticed. She's no alternative to Reinhardt, she's much more like Zarya; and that shouldn't really be a shocker given the similarity in their kits. I had hope for an alternative to Rein, as I've grown pretty bored of him, but that's not what I found there.

Start with the positives:
Throwing out shields to protect the back line, really good. Especially for snipers to sit behind and take careful shots with absolute impunity. <3

Using Halt to prevent injured players escaping, also good.

Supercharger for clutch defence or big push, nice.

I'm now kind of struggling from here.

The not so good:
You can throw out a shield ahead of you to advance your position, but it's like the ultimate telegraph of intention; everyone is going to move to get above or flank it, or even destroy it before you even get to it.

It's slow, step by step movement. There's a lot of heroes in the roster that can't work with that where they rely on their mobility to survive. Those heroes are the same ones on the opposing team who are just going to get behind or above it, and flatten you; and you have zero responsiveness to do anything about it for your team, although you can pop Fortify for yourself.

She's massive, and has a massive head. I enjoyed getting headshots all day on her, I'm not convinced the opposite player had the same level of enjoyment. She's so squishy in fact that you don't even need to half charge your second shot to finish her as Widow. 400HP seems way too low for her.

Her slow while firing even limits her options when in close quarters, since she can't duck behind her own barrier like Winston would. All she has is Fortify, but because of her size, nothing misses and it's not enough.

Even turtling on a point, her barrier is fixed, it's not rocket science to get around it.

My conclusion:
She's basically too slow and unreflexive to work as an 'Anchor' to really protect her team. Attacking with her as the 'main' tank is like attacking with the handbreak on, which is just no good. Defending with her is not much better, as she's so easily out manoeuvred. She just can't 'be' the front line.

I spend an awful lot of time on D.Va, and I'll be the first to admit that she is not nearly as good an anchor as Reinhardt, but her reflexiveness and mobility allow her to do that job, at least as a clutch measure; and that is down to both DM and Shield Barrier being an immediate 'right click' and moveable. So if there is a need for a new anchor tank (and there probably is) that is where you need to build from.

I think there is a place for an alternative to Zarya, and Orisa fills this well, or would do with an extra 100HP, but she is no alternative to Reinhardt.

[Orangetai420]

Good feedback @Jessicka - this is exactly what I came to this thread looking for.

[Jessicka]

Good feedback @Jessicka - this is exactly what I came to this thread looking for.

Played some more this morning, the new Meta seems to be Reinhardt-Zarya-Orisa-Zen-Ana-AFK. Punching through so much shielding is ridiculous, and the stacked damage buffs while basically immune through Tranq; there is nothing you can do with it. I guess you could Sombra ult bot them, but good luck getting her some charge.

[Orangetai420]

Played some more this morning, the new Meta seems to be Reinhardt-Zarya-Orisa-Zen-Ana-AFK. Punching through so much shielding is ridiculous, and the stacked damage buffs while basically immune through Tranq; there is nothing you can do with it. I guess you could Sombra ult bot them, but good luck getting her some charge.

Do you see Symmetra having a place in the meta if it turns out to be barrier heavy?

[Jessicka]

Do you see Symmetra having a place in the meta if it turns out to be barrier heavy?

On defence of Point A, as ever.

[DeadmanWalking]

JUnkrat will return to the metabecause he eats up barriers.

I did a match on ptr on no limits and almost everyone was Orisa, with the exception of an Anna on both teams and a Junkrat on ours. Once the payload was on its way in kings row the 5 orisa pushing it just put their shields on the payload and rode it to victory pretty easily, 4,500 shield barrier every 8 seconds was insane.

[Jessicka]

JUnkrat will return to the metabecause he eats up barriers.

I did a match on ptr on no limits and almost everyone was Orisa, with the exception of an Anna on both teams and a Junkrat on ours. Once the payload was on its way in kings row the 5 orisa pushing it just put their shields on the payload and rode it to victory pretty easily, 4,500 shield barrier every 8 seconds was insane.

He gets wrecked by Zen and Orisa though, so I'm not convinced. Had a Junkrat and Bastion and they both struggled with it.