Anyone know whats happening in Sweden?

[Mafic]

http://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/sto...tion-i-rinkeby

Haha. No contractor wants to build a new police station in Rinkeby because it's too dangerous.. They would need 24/7 security. Nope no problems here.. not at all.

How can two countries so near handle things so differently? Norway and Sweden are taking radical different approaches to the refugee crisis.

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How can two countries so near handle things so differently? Norway and Sweden are taking radical different approaches to the refugee crisis.

Because norway is more nationalistic than sweden. They don't vote for retarded polticians who say we should have no limit on how many can come.

[Fojos]

How can two countries so near handle things so differently? Norway and Sweden are taking radical different approaches to the refugee crisis.

Swedish politicians and the media have had a history of wanting to appear as a "moral super power". Which is insane because they help less people suffering from war and try to ruin the country at the same time. We've had one party against this and even if they received 49.9% of the votes, the other parties (even seemingly despising eachother) would make deals to make sure this party doesn't get any power (it's changing slightly this year).

[Mafic]

Because norway is more nationalistic than sweden. They don't vote for retarded polticians who say we should have no limit on how many can come.

But what happened to Sweden to lose its national pride? This I do not understand, because Sweden was always portrayed a modern country with a great education system, hospitals, and private sector? Why have things spiraled out of control all of sudden?

[Fojos]

But what happened to Sweden to lose its national pride? This I do not understand, because Sweden was always portrayed a modern country with a great education system, hospitals, and private sector? Why have things spiraled out of control all of sudden?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo2PIkMysJQ He speaks with a swedish psychologist about the swedish mentality.

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But what happened to Sweden to lose its national pride? This I do not understand, because Sweden was always portrayed a modern country with a great education system, hospitals, and private sector? Why have things spiraled out of control all of sudden?

68-vänstern happened and became influential and changed the ideological currents to the left wing parties.

[Mafic]

Swedish politicians and the media have had a history of wanting to appear as a "moral super power". Which is insane because they help less people suffering from war and try to ruin the country at the same time. We've had one party against this and even if they received 49.9% of the votes, the other parties (even seemingly despising eachother) would make deals to make sure this party doesn't get any power (it's changing slightly this year).

I realize the moral super power angle as it is just another form of trying to appear to be intellectually progressive. But Canada is an example of still maintaining its national pride while advocating for diversity. The United States is built on diversity and yet maintains national pride to an extent.

So, why has Sweden abandoned national pride? Is it the feeling that the country wants to project its values to neighboring countries to create a pan European moral super power? It seems that they are aligning themselves with what Merkel wants to do in Germany as well.

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But what happened to Sweden to lose its national pride? This I do not understand, because Sweden was always portrayed a modern country with a great education system, hospitals, and private sector? Why have things spiraled out of control all of sudden?

The social democratic party, they where really good for Sweden but they went downhill as History progressed. Leftist propaganda etc, nationalistic views have been shut down for a long time. During the 80s-90s Nationalistic/Patriotic bands appeared from youth but media witch hunted that.

I'm from Gotland and my generation was kinda spared all this shit, but we see ourselves as Gutes before Swedes. The national Anthem isn't sung, kids told the flag is racist. Teaching us that the monarchy is a waste of money and always been bad for Sweden. We are evil because we owned one little shit island where they sold slaves. Swedes doesn't exist according to our politicians we don't have a culture or history.

Beat that into kids heads for a generation and there you go!

[Fojos]

I realize the moral super power angle as it is just another form of trying to appear to be intellectually progressive. But Canada is an example of still maintaining its national pride while advocating for diversity. The United States is built on diversity and yet maintains national pride to an extent.

So, why has Sweden abandoned national pride? Is it the feeling that the country wants to project its values to neighboring countries to create a pan European moral super power? It seems that they are aligning themselves with what Merkel wants to do in Germany as well.

He talks about this in the video. It's a problem in the collective mentality where anything wrong with a minority is always the fault of the majority. If immigrants from certain groups commit far more crimes, according to them the problem can't be with their culture, the problem has to lie with us. In a collectivistic mentality we're guilty in all cases (and frankly, Canada has some of the same problems now, just look at M-103).

[Noradin]

Do you think you know more than me who was born in sweden and have lived here my whole life? Yes or no.

Anyone on this forum can claim to be born in sweden and to have lived there their whole life...

[Mafic]

The social democratic party, they where really good for Sweden but they went downhill as History progressed. Leftist propaganda etc, nationalistic views have been shut down for a long time. During the 80s-90s Nationalistic/Patriotic bands appeared from youth but media witch hunted that.

I'm from Gotland and my generation was kinda spared all this shit, but we see ourselves as Gutes before Swedes. The national Anthem isn't sung, kids told the flag is racist. Teaching us that the monarchy is a waste of money and always been bad for Sweden. We are evil because we owned one little shit island where they sold slaves. Swedes doesn't exist according to our politicians we don't have a culture or history.

Beat that into kids heads for a generation and there you go!

That is a bit extreme.

Because Germans, Greeks, Itailians, etc are fearful of showing too much national pride and reverence for their respective militaries as they fear it could bring back pro fascist nationalist sentiment.

But Germans still show a love for their culture through food and old traditions. Greeks could be argued have strayed too much from embracing the culture of the Ancient Greeks, but still maintain a strong Christian Orthodox identity that permeates their culture. Italians have a great love of the Ancient Romans, their food and national songs.

The three countries I outlined is no accident as for these three countries were splintered and were only unified with national push to unify each respective country.

Sweden historically has not had to so such large unification with nationalism, so why are they discarding nationalism? And has Sweden ever experienced fascism to be fearful of nationalism?

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Anyone on this forum can claim to be born in sweden and to have lived there their whole life...

Sure. Doesn't mean they know the language, history or culture.

Men du kan ju gärna försöka bevisa att jag inte är svensk.

[Mafic]

He talks about this in the video. It's a problem in the collective mentality where anything wrong with a minority is always the fault of the majority. If immigrants from certain groups commit far more crimes, according to them the problem can't be with their culture, the problem has to lie with us. In a collectivistic mentality we're guilty in all cases (and frankly, Canada has some of the same problems now, just look at M-103).

Eastern European countries have had to dealt with refugees and differences of cultures for thousands of years. But they still maintain their national identities (eg Poland, Bulgaria, etc) while dealing with ethnic minorities.

It has been rough for Eastern Europe though as they have fought back against minority communities. As a result is this Sweden's way of saying they reject Eastern European's viewpoints of going with a democratic majority to protect the minority who are kept down?

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Shocking what happened in Sweden yesterday, apparantly four people have been arrested - wonder if its the suspects behind the bowling green massacre.

The stretchers on the one on the left. If he sits down his balls are gonna explode.

[Ealyssa]

The stretchers on the one on the left. If he sits down his balls are gonna explode.

According to his face, it's way too late

[Fojos]

Eastern European countries have had to dealt with refugees and differences of cultures for thousands of years. But they still maintain their national identities (eg Poland, Bulgaria, etc) while dealing with ethnic minorities.

It has been rough for Eastern Europe though as they have fought back against minority communities. As a result is this Sweden's way of saying they reject Eastern European's viewpoints of going with a democratic majority to protect the minority who are kept down?

Eastern european countries have always had nationalistic views. Sweden's mentality is socialistic. I think this stems more from the 2nd world war than anything else though (like Germany). Which is interesting considering Sweden wasn't even part of it.

[Wikiy]

So, why has Sweden abandoned national pride? Is it the feeling that the country wants to project its values to neighboring countries to create a pan European moral super power? It seems that they are aligning themselves with what Merkel wants to do in Germany as well.

Germany has done away with the notion of national pride. What drives them are basic pragmatic needs and wants.

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Anyone on this forum can claim to be born in sweden and to have lived there their whole life...

Anyone on this forum can lie at any time.

I'm a rainbow-farting unicorn.

See? It's not that hard. It's a forum, the basic assumption is that no one lies that blatantly.

[Nitro Fun]

Anyone on this forum can claim to be born in sweden and to have lived there their whole life...

Why would someone lie about being born and living in Sweden? That makes no sense.

[Bakis]

Why would someone lie about being born and living in Sweden? That makes no sense.

To "add" credibility, often it is obvious they do not however.

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To "add" credibility, often it is obvious they do not however.

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