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  1. #201
    I love the assumption that this is ''politics''

    No, folks, those are not politics. Even the most rabidly racist US congressmen would never say something that boil downs to ''miscgenation should be illegal'' (they probably think it, but hey) JonJon drivel is not ''politics''

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Yeah, reading the STEAM page of the game certainly does not sound like the alt-right....at all.

    Especially not the defence of JonJon boiling down to ''HE WUZ RIGHT !''
    So what the hell is alt right? no seriously, like having left leaning ideals such as socialism doesnt mean one would be okay with devs taking someone out for having a difference in politics on a country the developers arent even based on?
    Also, love the diversity from the devs, only white anglo people.


    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    I love the assumption that this is ''politics''

    No, folks, those are not politics. Even the most rabidly racist US congressmen would never say something that boil downs to ''miscgenation should be illegal'' (they probably think it, but hey) JonJon drivel is not ''politics''
    Well yes, it is politics, the whole situation on jontron side relied on the migratory situation, the study i linked and how the socio-economic instability would create this gap, but hey, as long as it has races in it it's racist, disregard the data.
    Cod has a new campaign, new weapons, new multiplayer levels every year. Zelda has been recycling the same weapons, villains, and dungeons since the 80's. Zelda recycles enough to make cod blush. The same weapons, villains, dungeons, and princess in every single Zelda for the most part. It's almost as cheesy as bowser vs Mario round 35

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    I mean he's not wrong about BLM half the time they are nothing more than a terrorist organization... you see Ferguson? they burned half the city down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barackopala View Post
    So what the hell is alt right? no seriously, like having left leaning ideals such as socialism doesnt mean one would be okay with devs taking someone out for having a difference in politics on a country the developers arent even based on?
    Also, love the diversity from the devs, only white anglo people.



    Well yes, it is politics, the whole situation on jontron side relied on the migratory situation, the study i linked and how the socio-economic instability would create this gap, but hey, as long as it has races in it it's racist, disregard the data.
    Positively. Anything that advocates the existence of black races and yellow races and red races and the like is either John Carter of Mars or pure drivel. As someone who had the joy of coming from an ethnic group that was not considered as ''white'' until the sixties (French-Canadians) , I'm quite immune to calling other nations ''inferior''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    Kinda dumb to remove a work already made... Lets remove all Mel Gibson films?
    Sure thing. Wouldn't miss them.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolvarg View Post
    Even if they aren't "obligated", shouldn't they be criticized for it? Especially when it was already complete but was removed for ideological/political reasons completly unrelated to the game? Being a kickstarter game only builds up the point that should have done nothing, because they already had made the money they needed, so they didn't "risk comercially success" by leaving JonTron in.

    Also, as far as I'm aware their response and mockery of refund requests was not limited to kickstart backers, as far as I know (considering you have been able to pre-order on steam and other online and phisical stores for monhts), but I could be wrong on that.
    Steam would handle refunds on steam. Refunds would be handled by those offering preorders, not the developer. A lot of devs, indie especcially, are mad about steam refunds, but if they want to use steam as a means to sell their product they have to live with their games being refundable.

    Refunds for kickstarter are only warrented if the developer fails to deliver. Which Playtonic has not done.


    Because steam refunds isn't a thing duh, and there have been several confirmations that people have gotten chargebacks on their kickstarter donations
    You're not quiet understanding here.

    Paying to a kickstarter is not a preorder. Unless the developer fails to live up to the promises laid out on their kickstarter, they are in no way obligated to give back money which was intended to fund their project. It'd be like demanding back a donation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    Steam would handle refunds on steam. Refunds would be handled by those offering preorders, not the developer. A lot of devs, indie especcially, are mad about steam refunds, but if they want to use steam as a means to sell their product they have to live with their games being refundable.

    Refunds for kickstarter are only warrented if the developer fails to deliver. Which Playtonic has not done.



    You're not quiet understanding here.

    Paying to a kickstarter is not a preorder. Unless the developer fails to live up to the promises laid out on their kickstarter, they are in no way obligated to give back money which was intended to fund their project. It'd be like demanding back a donation.
    I'm quite sure that a videogame with cutesy mammals (and inevitable slash fanfics) is not exactly selling itself about being a game appealing to racial purity. (IE, ''we are going to have voiceovers by c-list Youtuber that are racists''was not likely in the Kickstarter promise)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    I'm quite sure that a videogame with cutesy mammals (and inevitable slash fanfics) is not exactly selling itself about being a game appealing to racial purity. (IE, ''we are going to have voiceovers by c-list Youtuber that are racists''was not likely in the Kickstarter promise)
    Yeah because there's a dev that claims to be really diverse whilst it has only white people, playtonic boi.
    Cod has a new campaign, new weapons, new multiplayer levels every year. Zelda has been recycling the same weapons, villains, and dungeons since the 80's. Zelda recycles enough to make cod blush. The same weapons, villains, dungeons, and princess in every single Zelda for the most part. It's almost as cheesy as bowser vs Mario round 35

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    He expressed a thought. They are policing it by dropping him from their game. How on earth is that any form of hyperbole?
    That's not what thought policing is.

    At all.

    Like...not even in the same ballpark. I have no clue why you brought up the word given that you literally have no understanding of its definition. I'd recommend actually reading 1984 if you're going to reference it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barackopala View Post
    Yeah because there's a dev that claims to be really diverse whilst it has only white people, playtonic boi.
    I believe in diversity butI work in an all white office. Want to know how many ethnic applications we've had in 4 years. Zero. I work for the NHS too, it's not some small operation.

    You can't blame a company for the lack of ethnic talent in the game industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draykorinee View Post
    I believe in diversity butI work in an all white office. Want to know how many ethnic applications we've had in 4 years. Zero. I work for the NHS too, it's not some small operation.

    You can't blame a company for the lack of ethnic talent in the game industry.
    Wow what a racist company, 0 activity to contracting diverse people? ouch /jk i dont give a fuck about a company diversity, but... There's a different between your company that made no statement regarding it being diverse than playonic CLAIMING it was diverse and having no diversity whatsoever.
    Cod has a new campaign, new weapons, new multiplayer levels every year. Zelda has been recycling the same weapons, villains, and dungeons since the 80's. Zelda recycles enough to make cod blush. The same weapons, villains, dungeons, and princess in every single Zelda for the most part. It's almost as cheesy as bowser vs Mario round 35

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    Gotta love the sorry excuses. Im seeing more REEEE than much else.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by barackopala View Post
    https://scholar.google.com/citations...J:fPk4N6BV_jEC
    Jontron did mention the study during the destiny debate, you must have the wrong info, pal.

    http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levi...onship1999.pdf
    Also an study that backs up the previous study.

    Again, the problem with jontron is that he ended up getting wrong conclussions from it.
    /siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

    I don't give a shit about the numbers he used! the crime stats he used are literally the last thing I care about. it's as you said his conclusions and a whole host of other shit he said that just came off as ignorant as all hell.

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