Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel: We’ll still be a ‘welcoming city’ for immigrants

[Wells]

You are making the assertion using this poll that 24% of all Americans oppose all forms of immigration. I am going to go on a limb and assume that assertion is bullshit.


Also that Verge Bannon article can be used to show that he may be a white nationalist but it does not make much sense around the context that he hates immigration. Luckily as someone who has been tangled in the immigration system for a few years now, i can point to the fact that it is possible to be a CEO on an H-1B visa, and it is possible to be a CEO of a US company without being physically in the USA depending on the structure of the company but you will just hand-wave that away.

I am not in the business of mind reading. I will leave that for you, Wells.

No, I'm saying what is says. THat there are many Americans who oppose immigration. Not sure why this is such a tough concept for you.

[Tennis]

Citation please.

Why should I provide citation when you can easily research this yourself?

Just make a thread on if the U.S. should take in 1% of its population through immigration as Canada does. Look at the responses.

[Wells]

It's not a tough concept for me. I just don't like how people conflate legal immigration with illegal immigration.

I am currently busting my ass doing this the proper way mean while Steve just walks on in and is grand fathered into the system because Steve broke the law and has been breaking the law for the past 20 years.

Yeah. I am more than slightly bitter that I have injected thousands of dollars into this process and years of my life but apparently I need to go fuck myself because Steve's case gets priority over mine.

Did you know that illegal immigrants who commit a crime in the USA automatically obtain more rights than me? They can apply for and receive FASFA, go to college, all these other privileges while waiting for years for their case to go to trail.

This system is absolutely fucked and it incentives petty and other crimes in order to embed yourself into the system.

The only one doing that here is you. It's a poll of immigration. We're looking at the question of who opposes immigration. You're just throwing up random nonissues to slow the gears.

Don't really give a shit about your personal grievance.

[Barnabas]

There's nothing wrong with welcoming immigrants. What people have an issue with is welcoming and sheltering illegal immigrants.

He's an open borders guy. His record reflects this.

[Wells]

Of course you don't care. Hardly anybody here than bangs on the drum of how racist America is or how bad immigrants are treated care about the opinions and real life experiences of actual immigrants.

You are the MMO-Champion equivalent of a Reply Girl it seems.

I said your personal grievance. If you're done discussing the topic at hand and just want to complain about a shitty immigration system then w/e

[IIamaKing]

Why should I provide citation when you can easily research this yourself?

Becasue YOU made the claim. Thats how it works. And no, making a thread on MMO-C Gen-OT is not a source for your BS claim.

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That's some serious micron hairsplitting.

No it isnt. One is a policy stance, the other are people. The poll you cited was not asking how people felt about IMMIGRANTS.

[Wells]

Becasue YOU made the claim. Thats how it works. And no, making a thread on MMO-C Gen-OT is not a source for your BS claim.

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No it isnt. One is a policy stance, the other are people. The poll you cited was not asking how people felt about IMMIGRANTS.

Just so we're clear here, you don't think we can reasonably infer that people who oppose immigration also oppose immigrants?

[stabetha]

Except that the people against one are most likely against the other.

only in your make believe fantasy world.

[IIamaKing]

The poll is of immigration. Which is our discussion. People who oppose immigration.

Actually,

No point in acting like a sizable portion of the country doesn't have a problem with all immigrants.

IS the claim in dispute, nothing about immigration as a policy, you claimed that a large swathe of country has a people with IMMIGRANTS. Which is a BS claim that you have no proof for.

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Just so we're clear here, you don't think we can reasonably infer that people who oppose immigration also oppose immigrants?

No. Why do you?

[Wells]

No. Why do you?

Because I'm not being intentionally obtuse?

[Tomservo]

The legal immigrants I work with HATE illegal immigrants.

[IIamaKing]

Because I'm not being intentionally obtuse?

So, no proof, no real reason other than "people be racist" I guess? Never fail to live up to expectations Wells. G'nite.

[Wells]

I mean this is especially silly because we can just look at more polling.

Oh look, a third of the country thinks that immigrants are a burden.

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So, no proof, no real reason other than "people be racist" I guess? Never fail to live up to expectations Wells. G'nite.

Its funny when people like you don't even bother to do cursory research.

[stabetha]

Its funny when people like you don't even bother to do cursory research.

don't act like you don't play the same game

[Wells]

don't act like you don't play the same game

Yeah I mean I'm only backing up what I'm saying with multiple polls and citations.

[Tennis]

The legal immigrants I work with HATE illegal immigrants.

Where do you work?

[Zomis]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/chica...mmigrants.html

In a time where some are embracing fear, hate and division, it is great to see the mayor standing his ground!

The city with a major murder problem, lets see how long they will lest without federal aid. I cant wait to see democrats set their city on fire!

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Where do you work?

what does that have to do with anything they said?

[Dextroden]

I mean this is especially silly because we can just look at more polling.

Oh look, a third of the country thinks that immigrants are a burden.

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Its funny when people like you don't even bother to do cursory research.

Remember when polling promised Romney and Hillary would win in a landslide?

[Wells]

Remember when polling promised Romney and Hillary would win in a landslide?

No, which poll was that?

[Dextroden]

No, which poll was that?

The same one where the apparently got the opinion of every person in the country on immigration.

Also. Immigration=/=Immigrants. But hey. We've already stretched the definition of fascist to being useless.