Milo Yiannopoulos to Tomi Lahren: the faces of America's young alt-Right pack.

[Nasuem]

There is a new breed of conservative, the Alt-right; they have their own brand of young icons turning people on to the far right. I guess in the days when Jon Stewart has left his post and Colbert has moved onto more mainstream projects, there are less firebrands to counter these types and gain the following. Most of the Daily Show have different projects, or have moved on to other TV comedy, but it seems the world of podcasts and youtube has proliferated with Alt-Right voices. And admittedly the show is not the same under Noah.

I know Tomi Lahren has some mainstream success and is mentioned, and obviously Yiannopoulos has forced his way into the world. I suppose its nice they have a more diverse crowd than Rush Limbaugh and the like.

(source)

Haha yes, the alt right is a consequence of two comedy central shows ending, not one group of people being blamed for every ill on every part of the globe and being called nazi's whenever they petition for their own interests.

[Fitheach]

Haha yes, the alt right is a consequence of two comedy central shows ending, not one group of people being blamed for every ill on every part of the globe and being called nazi's whenever they petition for their own interests.

I wouldn't consider the most privileged people demanding to be openly racist or "racial realists," to be a cause worth not calling out for what it is.

There is a reason most Republicans in the House and Senate hate this too.

[Independent voter]

They interview the guy who invented the term alt-right on NPR, this is the same guy who got sucker punched at the inaugural

He's a racist, there's nothing "alt-right" about him, it's racism.




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KELLY MCEVERS, HOST:
The new chief strategist for President-elect Donald Trump once said a website he used to run, Breitbart News, is a platform for the so-called alt-right. We're about to hear more about that movement from the man who says he came up with the term alt-right. His name is Richard Spencer, and in 2008, he began arguing there should be an alternative to George W. Bush-era Republicans and conservatives.
Richard Spencer now runs a small think tank that pushes alt-right ideas. To be clear, the alt-right movement is also a white nationalist movement that's associated with racism, misogyny and anti-Semitism. What the alt-right wants, Spencer says, is an awakening of identity politics, meaning white identity politics.
The alt-right used to exist mostly on the Internet, but with the rise of Donald Trump and his chief strategist, Steve Bannon, the movement is starting to hold conferences where hundreds of people attend. Spencer and others in the alt-right movement were suspended from Twitter this week. But now that Trump has been elected, Spencer says he believes the alt-right will continue to grow.
RICHARD SPENCER: This is the first time we've really entered the mainstream, and we're not going away. I mean this is just the beginning. And I'm very excited.
MCEVERS: Just a warning here. There are words and phrases and ideas in the next seven minutes that many people will find offensive, even hateful. But because this group has influence, we think you should hear what the alt-right is and what it wants from a Trump administration. So I ask Spencer that, and he said his end goal is a white ethno state sometime in the future.
SPENCER: What I would ultimately want is this ideal of a safe space effectively for Europeans. This is a big empire that would accept all Europeans. It would be a place for Germans. It would be a place for Slavs. It would be a place for Celts. It would be a place for white Americans and so on.
For something like that to happen and really for Europeans to survive and thrive in this very difficult century that we're going to be experiencing, we have to have a sense of consciousness. We're going to have to have that sense of identity.
MCEVERS: Going forward, should only white European people be considered U.S. citizens?
SPENCER: Well, no, I mean the citizenship of the United States - like, this is not something that can be changed right away. So I mean I think we need to differentiate identity and citizenship.
MCEVERS: So in your idea, like, there's a United States of America where different people still have citizenship but they're living in separate enclaves; they're living in places where they are kept separate from one another.
SPENCER: What I'm saying is that Europeans defined America. They defined what it is. Of course there are people who are non-European who are here, who are citizens and so on. What I would...
MCEVERS: Who many would argue also defined America.
SPENCER: Sure, and they did to a certain degree. But European people were the indispensable central people that defined this nation socially and politically and culturally and demographically obviously.
I care about us more. That's all I'm saying. But I respect identitarians of other races. And I actually can see eye to eye with them in a way that your average conservative can't.
MCEVERS: But you also believe that people of different races inherently do not get along. Isn't that right?
SPENCER: I think world history believes that (laughter). I mean I don't - it's not just my opinion. I don't see very many counterexamples.
MCEVERS: So you ride the subway in New York City. And you're sitting in a subway car, and you're looking at people from all over everywhere. And nobody's punching each other. Nobody's stabbing anyone. Everyone's going about their life, going to work, you know? You don't see that as, like, a way where people are getting along?
SPENCER: Do we really like each other? Do we really love each other? Do we really have a sense of community in that subway car? What I see are a lot of...
MCEVERS: Or a cul-de-sac or in kindergarten.
SPENCER: Whenever many different races are in the same school, what will happen is that there'll be a natural segregation at lunchtime, at PE, at - in terms of after-school play.
MCEVERS: Richard Spencer's views are obviously not easy to hear, but we do think they're important to hear because of the link between the alt-right and Donald Trump's team. I asked Richard Spencer what policies he's pushing for - natural conservation, he said, a foreign policy that's friendlier to Russia and this.
SPENCER: Immigration is the most obvious one. And I think we need to get beyond thinking about immigration just in terms of illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is not nearly as damaging as legal immigration. Legal immigration - they're here to stay. Their children are here and so on.
And I think a really reasonable and I think palatable policy proposal would be for Donald Trump to say, look; we've had immigration in the past. It's brought some fragmentation. It's brought division. But we need to become a people again. And for us to do that, we're going to need to take a break from mass immigration. And we're going to need to preference people who are going to fit in, who are more like us. That is European immigration.
MCEVERS: You know, how likely do you think it is that some of these policies that you want to see happen will happen?
SPENCER: What I want is influence. And sometimes influence can be invisible. If we can get these ideas out there, if people can see the compelling and powerful nature of them, I think we really can change policy.
MCEVERS: I just want to go down a list of things. And you tell me if they are OK or not OK.
SPENCER: OK.
MCEVERS: Graffiti that says make America white again.
SPENCER: I don't - look; graffiti is illegal, but...
MCEVERS: The slogan make America white again.
SPENCER: I don't have a huge problem with that I mean that people...
MCEVERS: OK.
SPENCER: ...Are just expressing their opinion.
MCEVERS: Swastikas.
SPENCER: A swastika is an ancient symbol. I don't - like, you know, if you're asking me, do I have a problem with people expressing themselves and maybe, you know...
MCEVERS: With a swastika.
SPENCER: People want to express themselves. They can do whatever they want.
MCEVERS: So that's an OK - wearing white robes or hoods like the KKK.
SPENCER: Look. I'm - you're not going to get me to condemn any of this because you haven't said anything that is really fundamentally illegal or immoral. I might not agree with some people. I might not like this. I might like that, not like that. But the fact is these are people expressing themselves. I'm not going to condemn any of that.
MCEVERS: Do you agree with those expressions?
SPENCER: I agree with people who want to get in touch with their identity as a European. That can take a number of different forms. I don't support any kind of physical threats or anything like that. I think that does cross the line.
But in terms of people coming to terms with who they are, I don't oppose it. And I actually would respect - deeply respect the right of non-white people to try to understand themselves and to express themselves as they see fit.
MCEVERS: What about Republicans in particular?
SPENCER: Not a fan.
MCEVERS: Right.
SPENCER: Well, I like their voters. Like, the voters are great. I - the fact that they just chose Donald Trump - that is great. I love them. In terms of Republican operatives, in terms of the conservative movement - not a fan.
MCEVERS: I guess I'm thinking of just Republicans in general - like, people maybe who did - who also voted for Donald Trump but who will say, you know, that your views are racist and are extreme and don't have a place in this country. How do you deal with them?
SPENCER: If I had told you in 1985 that we should have gay marriage in this country, you probably would have laughed at me. And I think most people would have. Or at least - at the very least, you would have been a bit confused, and you would have told me, oh that's ridiculous. The fact is, opinions do change. People's consciousness does change. Paradigms are meant to be broken. That's what the alt-right is doing.
MCEVERS: That was Richard Spencer, the leader of the so-called alt-right, a white nationalist movement that supported Donald Trump. Spencer says he is not in contact with the Trump transition team. We asked the Trump team to comment about links between Chief Strategist Steve Bannon and the alt-right, but we did not hear back.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

You bore me, don't you have some stones to throw...

Oh you're not getting me with your clever "I'm rubber, you're glue!" trick again.

I know any stones I throw will just bounce off you and come back at me.

[KrazyK923]

Milo is nothing but a laughable, pathetic, troll in real life. He hides behind his gayness as an excuse to ignore any criticisms or complete hypocrisy in his own arguments. He's a self-admitted practicing Catholic yet pretends he's Jewish because his grandmother was to try and gain even more sympathy points.

He's the perfect representative of this new wave of conservitard alt-right children: People who act exactly like the privileged snowflakes while going around yelling about privileged snowflakes. He's upheld as some kind of pillar in the conservative movement for some reason, but many have come his way before on every side of the spectrum: shit-stirrers. Who go around trying to start drama for clicks or money. Another name for them: Attention Whores. He just reinforces the right-wing echo chamber because they can go "LOOK AT DIS GAY JEWISH GUY SAYING THE SAME THINGS AS ME!"

Look at many defenses against the criticisms of him, its always "MILO CAN'T BE [X], HES A GAY JEW!" Like Blaire White, just exchange gay jew for trans woman. Or Lauren Southern with "Woman." Its literally the same kind of social justice rhetoric just repackaged for a right-wing audience. And the rubes fall for it hook, line, and sinker. And worse yet, pretend they have some moral high ground while doing exactly what they bleat on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about the left doing.

I guess the best thing about him is...he's not a Nazi? That line of attack is asinine. But I suppose its the one good thing about him?

[Elba]

Milo being alt-right is laughable

Why? 101010

[Jon]

Alt-right... just call them nazis.

[Serpha]

Oh you're not getting me with your clever "I'm rubber, you're glue!" trick again.

I know any stones I throw will just bounce off you and come back at me.

Stop being so edgy, kid.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Stop being so edgy, kid.

And he comes back all the way around back to "no u" again.

Your repertoire could use some work.

But you keep doing you....you're hilarious.

[Shadee]

Good people.

Indeed, doing God's work.

[Elba]

Go read his book or watch one of his many talks and make your opinion then.

Why not support your claim?

[Volardelis]

Alt-right is more tolerant of some minorities and less totalitarian. They're still authoritarian, just not totalitarian.

Democrats are center-right, but liberals are center-left.

Depends on what you mean by Liberals.

Here in Australia, liberals are seen as center-right due to the Australian Liberal Party.

[Elba]

Alternative left is actually a term Zizek came up with, to call for a left that denounces the regressiveness of third-wave feminism and being offended about 'racism' all the time.

Third-wave feminism or Choice feminism is actually extremely egalitarian and liberal, much more so than previous waves. You people really have no idea what you are talking about. It's just buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords.

And why wouldn't you be offended by racism? I'd think every decent person is.

[Spectral]

Alternative left is actually a term Zizek came up with, to call for a left that denounces the regressiveness of third-wave feminism and being offended about 'racism' all the time.

I'm not really sure what he'd be looking for there other than just plain old school workers of the world unite style Marxism.

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Are we sure Milo is an alt rigther? Because a lot of alt rigthers hate him.

Indeed, he is alt-lite. Also known as a civic nationalist. "wespectable conshervatiphe". Cuck. It has many names.
The left wing media cannot distinguish them, and will not because it makes it less fun for them when they find out the core hates him for being a gay blackie-loving jew.

>calling Neo-nazi good

oh you trumpers.

Alt-lite is not neo-nazi. 1488 and alt-right are neo-nazi because they generally have sympathies for Hitler.
Alt-lite is Trump - they are the edgy anti-polical correctness, they are the anti-feminist, they are freedom lovers. There's a stark contrast between that and the ethnic cleansing, moral policing viewpoints of the "true" alt-right. The alt-right that the alt-right feels are true alt-right.

Alt-left? Is that something new the far right made up?

I am pretty sure he meant Anarcho-Communism.

[Nasuem]

I wouldn't consider the most privileged people demanding to be openly racist or "racial realists," to be a cause worth not calling out for what it is.

There is a reason most Republicans in the House and Senate hate this too.

The most privileged huh? And how do we determine that? Least interaction with police force, highest education and highest standards of living? So you must be talking about,

Indian American : $101,591[2]
Taiwanese American : $85,566[2]
Filipino American : $82,389[2]
Australian American : $81,452[3]
Israeli American : $79,736[3]
European American : $77,440[3]

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Third-wave feminism or Choice feminism is actually extremely egalitarian and liberal, much more so than previous waves. You people really have no idea what you are talking about. It's just buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords.

And why wouldn't you be offended by racism? I'd think every decent person is.

Hahahaha. Dear lord, the left is truly the gift that keeps giving.

Please list one right a woman currently does not have, that a man does. Just one, please.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Depends on what you mean by Liberals.

Here in Australia, liberals are seen as center-right due to the Australian Liberal Party.

Liberals here in Quebec used to mean left, then went to center-right, much like Canada. In the US, they're the authoritarian center-left.

[Elba]

Hahahaha. Dear lord, the left is truly the gift that keeps giving.

Please list one right a woman currently does not have, that a man does. Just one, please.

When did I mention rights? What has that to do with what I said?

[Kaleredar]

They got one of their own elected. Internet trolls are surely trolls, but a real person is posting that racist garbage on places like 4chan and reddit.

I have serious doubts about the actual, appreciable effect that the pepe frog keklords had on the election.

The delusional rustbelt voted trump into office, not a handful of jaded bernie bros on reddit.

[TITAN308]

One of the defining characteristics of the "alt right" these days is the willingness to latch onto nominally left wing ideas for self serving reasons, but if it's just a matter of expediency and not principle then you aren't really a leftist. I suppose you can call yourself whatever you want, but just going by what you post on here, nothing I've ever seen you type deviates at all from the standard far right dogma.

I'm sure you will see what you want to see. Nothing I can do about that at the end of the day.