CNN Fact Checks Russian Dressing Joke: Discovers It's Not Russian

[Edge-]

Feels before reals, eh?

Who do you think I am, Newt Gingrich?

I mean, if you have anything that disproves what CNN wrote I'd be happy to look at it.

Or, you know, you're looking to play a semantics game to score "points" for some reason. In which case, here's a few internet points.

You didn't see it, but I just made hand gestures to give you a few internet points.

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Odd that we don't get more journalism relating to the Ukrainian oligarchs who have been funneling money to the democrats and pushing this whole anti-Russian agenda.

I'd be curious about this, do you have anything that provides information on this?

[Belize]

I'd be curious about this, do you have anything that provides information on this?

Proof!? Facts to back up a claim!?!?!

You're asking way too much here.

[alexkeren]

I think you forgot to post the "fake" part of all of this.

Is it a pointless jab at Spicer? Sure. But he's a bloody moron and nothing CNN wrote in their "fact check" seems inaccurate.

As someone with a journalism degree it's not even truly news worthy what they wrote. Especially since it was a joke, though I will grant you it was a bad one. It just makes CNN look like idiots and not unbiased news reporters as they should be.

[Venant]

No, but they pushed to get someone elected, which is the same thing. Doesn't that make them fake news?

Explain how 'pushing to get someone elected' is the same as 'passing privileged information to a candidate in order to give that candidate an advantage in a debate'. Its like the difference between financial advice and passing inside information.

[Machismo]

Explain how 'pushing to get someone elected' is the same as 'passing privileged information to a candidate in order to give that candidate an advantage in a debate'. Its like the difference between financial advice and passing inside information.

It is the same, because the intent was to control the narrative in order to get a specific outcome. Are Fox and Breitbart fake news?

Feel free to answer any time.

[alexkeren]

CNN didn't get the joke. It's even funnier that it's not actually Russian. That's the punchline.

Winner winner chicken dinner!

[Edge-]

As someone with a journalism degree it's not even truly news worthy what they wrote. Especially since it was a joke, though I will grant you it was a bad one. It just makes CNN look like idiots and not unbiased news reporters as they should be.

You're right, it's not. Nor were the headlines about how mean Spicer was for telling that woman to stop shaking her head. Instead of media covering that the US Press Secretary continues to lie to reporters to their faces on a daily basis.

CNN are a bunch of idiots, I agree. Same with MSNBC. Fox. I could go on, but needless to say it's the overwhelming majority of major news networks and sites, in addition to all the blindly partisan bullshit.

Media are failing quite spectaculaly in their role as the 4th estate, especially given that their role has morphed into being the "opposition party", as members of Trump's administrations have called them before. The business interests of the companies that own/run these outlets outweigh their responsibility as journalists, so we get puff pieces like this rather than anything a single real journalist would be proud to attach their name to.

But that's an entirely separate issue. In this thread, while this article was pointless as shell, I see no indication of any "fake" information or anything worthy of outrage like the OP implies.

[Bodakane]

As someone with a journalism degree it's not even truly news worthy what they wrote. Especially since it was a joke, though I will grant you it was a bad one. It just makes CNN look like idiots and not unbiased news reporters as they should be.

CNN was joking back. They trolled Spicer, Trump and apparently, you too.

[LilSaihah]

But that's an entirely separate issue. In this thread, while this article was pointless as shell, I see no indication of any "fake" information or anything worthy of outrage like the OP implies.

I don't think that's quite what 'fake news' means. You don't need to explicitly lie to create fake news. Omission of information is not technically 'fake'. Reporting on things that don't matter can be seen as 'fake news'.

[alexkeren]

CNN was joking back. They trolled Spicer, Trump and apparently, you too.

If it was written by Jon Stewart I would agree it was a joke piece, but not from CNN, they've never been funny.

[Edge-]

Reporting on things that don't matter can be seen as 'fake news'.

If the definition of "fake news" is that broad, then it's entirely pointless as a term. An argument that I won't necessarily disagree with given the quality of discussion that's surrounded "fake news" so far, mind you.

[ipaq]

Trivial, sure, but not fake news. All news organizations do the occasional soft piece. Someone probably knew the history and thought it would make an interesting time filler.
There are plenty of things to get outraged about, but this is not one of them.

Yeah like why you people are still not outraged that they killed a 8yo american girl (along with ~20 civilians) when trying to get a "bin laden" moment for trump in that fail Yemen raid.

[Elerubard]

You don't think that has anything to do with a lot of non-corporate news being full of BS?



How does collusion mean they're fake news? I don't see the connection.

I think he means corrupt. I hate the GOP with a fury; but denying that the Democrats have been pulling this kind of shit is beyond crazy at this point.

[xChurch]

I think he means corrupt. I hate the GOP with a fury; but denying that the Democrats have been pulling this kind of shit is beyond crazy at this point.

As far as whether CNN is fake news, well that is absolutely true, and all you need to look at is the well documented collusion between CNN and the Clinton campaign.

If that was what he meant, he didn't word this properly then.

[derpkitteh]

How anyone can read that and think CNN missed the joke is amazing. They trolled Spicer and the admin hard on that one.

yeah, they definitely got the joke and made a joke back.

this was actually funny imo.

[Elerubard]

If that was what he meant, he didn't word this properly then.

I agree. Fake News is meme that's going to blow up in its creator's faces; but this is more CNN being needlessly pedantic than anything else.

[Noradin]

If the definition of "fake news" is that broad, then it's entirely pointless as a term. An argument that I won't necessarily disagree with given the quality of discussion that's surrounded "fake news" so far, mind you.

It is the traditional definition I'd say: Fake news--information that is passed off as new and important, and might or might not be true. That is so insignificant that its truth value doesn't really matter. A placeholder.

But now that Trump has abused the term was turned into an euphemism for lies that are passed off as news to a big audience.
We should just go back to calling the latter "lies". That's what they are.

[Heladys]

This just in: The idiocy of Spicer and Trump is not in fact a joke.

[Garnier Fructis]

This is your fake news media at its finest. I know, the term is thrown around liberally, often, derisively and dismissively. However, does anyone really think CNN is doing their job when this is what they're reduced to "fact checking"?

Acknowledging that you're using the term badly is not actually justification for doing so. Pointless news is not fake news.

[mage21]

The animosity between the two is so thick you could cut it with a knife. Both sides took jabs at each other here.