Coulter vows to give talk, defying Berkeley order

[SupBrah]

Like so many others, you're conflating an ongoing risk with a specific threat.

So you think they should wait for a specific threat before they should be concerned? I mean come on... We all know liberals are prone to violent tendencies when someone disagrees with liberal doctrine, but Berkely has a very, very strong history of being full of violent, regressive leftist, extremist hate groups.


I think it's more sad that Berkeley straight up knows that their violent, regressive leftist students (who are considered adults now might i add) simply don't have the maturity and/or mental capacity to resist throwing a temper tantrum and getting violent.... Just become someone they simply disagree with on a few things comes to the school to give a speech. They seriously don't expect young adults to be able to act like young adults...


That's the next generation, folks... Think about that for a second..

[satimy]

(1) Anne Coulter is a performance artist. She is a professional troll who says outrageous things to get people to buy her books and get herself on TV. You don't debate people like Anne Coulter. This is somebody who said "If only people with at least 4 grandparents born in America were voting, Trump would win in a 50-state landslide." She knew exactly the reaction that would provoke. That's not a serious idea and she is not a serious person.

(2) *looks at what you wrote*
*looks at topic*
*looks at who wrote it*

You never fooled anbody Zenkai. Drop the charade already.

So if immigrants change the political climate in the country, which is something Coulter is alluding to. Are you saying it's illegitimate to not support immigration if you don't support where they'd take the country politically?

[Endus]

The ongoing risk, is the threat. It's the environment that the left has created, where there will be violence whenever opposing political views are expressed. That's what we're all talking about here. The left is using fear to attempt to silence opposing political views, otherwise known as, domestic terrorism.

That you think this is "the left" is just a demonstration of how ridiculously biased you are. It's a few antifa protestors. Most of "the left" has just as much issue with them as you do.

[Krigaren]

OK - How about this, I'll reclarify for you... the Alt-Left. And no, Americans don't typically allow fear to silence them. They still try though, I guess they're not history majors.

You have no idea what the so-called "alt-left" is, if you that's what you think Berkeley protesters are.

Alt-Left:

Firm believers in a Liberal/Social Democracy ex.( Liberties mentioned in The Bill of Rights etc...) but with a type of Socialist Market Economy;

An alternative political movement that seeks to unite those who feel underrepresented or marginalized by current mainstream political channels, who seek to adhere to left-wing policies while rejecting what they deem the regressive left agenda; "Identity Politics", "Censorship in College campuses","Trigger Warnings", "All whites are racist", "All men are sexist" and other narratives.

Alt-Leftists despise SJWs/Regressive Leftists for their insanity denial of obvious facts and racist agenda; They despise conservatives for just being insane; They also are against corporate Neo-Liberalism ex. Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer etc...

TIL: I'm probably more of an alt-leftist than not. Thank you internet!

And you're right, Americans typically don't allow fear to silence them. Not sure what your point is, since this holds for all sides of the political spectrum.

[Dextroden]

That you think this is "the left" is just a demonstration of how ridiculously biased you are. It's a few antifa protestors. Most of "the left" has just as much issue with them as you do.

Comparatively, a handful of actual Nazis and the WHOLE COUNTRY is a far right wasteland.

[cubby]

What's wrong with college kids today? They need to incite violence with everyone they disagree with instead of debating them? That's what low brow people do, not educated individuals. It must really be easy to get into Berkeley these days.

I would perhaps instead ask what's wrong with Coulter - she is showing up to a canceled event. Does she not understand what canceled means?

[Gestopft]

Another right-wing circle jerk over whatever stupid thing some college students are doing? Not that I'm shocked.

Really, they should just let her speak. Win by argument, not by outrage.

[Zoldor]

Lol Free Speech being stopped because someone paid to speak got cancelled. Yep, that is blocking free speech right there. She can go to the campus and talk anywhere she wants, probably even have a spot designated for protestors like most college campuses. But hey, since the paying gig got canceled she lost her free speech.

Ever think that MAYBE, the school is looking to avoid another violent protest, because I'm sure the liability on that is no big deal. Ann Coulter not getting a pay day is totally the same thing as violating her first amendment rights. She isn't banned from ever speaking, she had an event canceled. But nah, Coulter isn't just singing to those right wing masses to make more money and be relevant again.

Never seen a group of more butt hurt and faux-oppressed than right wing speakers recently. You'd think those private jets were prison cells.

She also isn't defying an order. Her event was canceled. It isn't like she is going to go set the event up herself, charge fees, take attendance, and run the event on Berekly grounds. She is going to go talk at the school for free, I guess, something tells me this won't happen someone is paying her ass. Besides the point, they never say, We BAN ANN COULTER FROM SPEAKING HERE EVER! They cancelled an event due to protest, not the first time ever this has happened.

I like she called for Jeff Sessions to look into this, like Sessions is her pocket attorney. You want your case heard hire a fucking lawyer and run it through the system you entitled prick.

[Cthulhu 2020]

(1) Anne Coulter is a performance artist. She is a professional troll who says outrageous things to get people to buy her books and get herself on TV. You don't debate people like Anne Coulter. This is somebody who said "If only people with at least 4 grandparents born in America were voting, Trump would win in a 50-state landslide." She knew exactly the reaction that would provoke. That's not a serious idea and she is not a serious person.

(2) *looks at what you wrote*
*looks at topic*
*looks at who wrote it*

You never fooled anbody Zenkai. Drop the charade already.

Zenkai: Posts anti-left stuff for miles.

"Wow you Trumpkins"

Zenkai: I'M INDEPENDENT and I'll prove it by saying I dislike Trump even though I have yet to say anything truly negative other than "I dislike him too" and often defend him vigorously. Oh and on other forums I'm called an SJW for my views. It's true!

[Bullettime]

Lol Free Speech being stopped because someone paid to speak got cancelled. Yep, that is blocking free speech right there. She can go to the campus and talk anywhere she wants, probably even have a spot designated for protestors like most college campuses. But hey, since the paying gig got canceled she lost her free speech.

Ever think that MAYBE, the school is looking to avoid another violent protest, because I'm sure the liability on that is no big deal. Ann Coulter not getting a pay day is totally the same thing as violating her first amendment rights. She isn't banned from ever speaking, she had an event canceled. But nah, Coulter isn't just singing to those right wing masses to make more money and be relevant again.

Never seen a group of more butt hurt and faux-oppressed than right wing speakers recently. You'd think those private jets were prison cells.

Exactly. The issue isn't even left versus right in reality.

Sure, you basically have someone representing the alt right coming to the school to want to rally others and you have the left protesting it. The issue always lies in the middle where a small tension can be ignited into a wildfire by what amounts to be anarchists and overall douchebag frat boys who abuse the situation to do retarded shit and pin it on one of the parties involved.

[Darkeon]

Another right-wing circle jerk over whatever stupid thing some college students are doing? Not that I'm shocked.

Really, they should just let her speak. Win by argument, not by outrage.

Erm, that's kinda the point.

Welcome to the Alt-Right, bro!
Since you appear to be discussing - and being against - the same thing these people are.

[Dextroden]

Another right-wing circle jerk over whatever stupid thing some college students are doing? Not that I'm shocked.

Really, they should just let her speak. Win by argument, not by outrage.

If people actually did that, they probably could have beaten Trump.

I don't understand how calling people stupid and racist explains the intricacies of reforming immigration.

[nacixems]

Really, they should just let her speak. Win by argument, not by outrage.

this is why the SJW riot and cause problems. they cant win by argument, so they pick outrage, better known as rioting and violence, typical of those who cant stand a view point they dont agree with.

[Bullettime]

this is why the SJW riot and cause problems. they cant win by argument, so they pick outrage, better known as rioting and violence, typical of those who cant stand a view point they dont agree with.

A lot of the violence at these things isn't done by the left or the right. It's just very easy to spark something as an outside party when tensions between two sides are at a high.

This is what happened with the Milo speech as well. The right wingers were fired up, left wingers were protesting, and then independent idiots used it to break shit and disappear into the mobs.

[Kalis]

If there are safety concerns, then surely you get rid of/bar those who are a threat to safety, not the speakers. Otherwise you are saying that threats of violence will win out over debates, which is something that will encourage extremists of all stripes to threaten violence.

[sarahtasher]

What will amaze me to the end of my days is that the alt-right is persuaded that their incoherent memes are ''political opinions''.

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If there are safety concerns, then surely you get rid of/bar those who are a threat to safety, not the speakers. Otherwise you are saying that threats of violence will win out over debates, which is something that will encourage extremists of all stripes to threaten violence.

Some people really, really, really struggle immensely with the concept that it's not because you CAN say things that you SHOULD. For instance, pornography is perfectly legal in the USA. Yet, if you take at church your copy of Hustler and show it to parishionner, some people might voice objections.

[Kalis]

What will amaze me to the end of my days is that the alt-right is persuaded that their incoherent memes are ''political opinions''.

You really are in no position to criticise others for incoherence.

Some people really, really, really struggle immensely with the concept that it's not because you CAN say things that you SHOULD. For instance, pornography is perfectly legal in the USA. Yet, if you take at church your copy of Hustler and show it to parishionner, some people might voice objections.

Do you think that political violence is voicing objections?

[sarahtasher]

You really are in no position to criticise others for incoherence.



Do you think that political violence is voicing objections?

Political violence like being called mean names ? The alt-right send death threats over movies with female actresses but need medication when someone mocks a c-list Youtuber

[Dextroden]

If there are safety concerns, then surely you get rid of/bar those who are a threat to safety, not the speakers. Otherwise you are saying that threats of violence will win out over debates, which is something that will encourage extremists of all stripes to threaten violence.

Pish posh. That's like saying hatred turns people to terrorism.

[zenkai]

Zenkai: Posts anti-left stuff for miles.

"Wow you Trumpkins"

Zenkai: I'M INDEPENDENT and I'll prove it by saying I dislike Trump even though I have yet to say anything truly negative other than "I dislike him too" and often defend him vigorously. Oh and on other forums I'm called an SJW for my views. It's true!

Zenkai post anti republican shit *crickets* I guess you feel you need to attack me because you're insecure.

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Political violence like being called mean names ? The alt-right send death threats over movies with female actresses but need medication when someone mocks a c-list Youtuber

Are you saying Berkeley doesn't have a history of violent protest in the last couple of months? Your strawman argument is shit.