Why is multi culture a good thing?

[Endus]

Thing is after a while all those people you let in are seen as your culture, even though they once weren't. That is a bit odd though

They're seen as your fellow citizens, you mean. This is where you start overlapping "culture" with the concept of the nation.

[petej0]

Like how chicken tikka masala is now a staple of English cuisine.

Really? English cuisine just got a bump up. haha

[Astalnar]

Because a single culture shouldn't strangle other cultures out of existence.

And that's why we have ethnostates. Where in one world all those different cultures can peacefully coexist without beaing at each other's throats (in theory). Homogeniety is always the end result. From many into one. Now if you have many willing to become one it is peaceful, otherwise it is violent, but it always ends in homogeneity, one way or the other.

[infinit]

Just make sure you don't adapt any part of their culture (if you are white) as thats cultural appropriation.

non whites feel free to appropriate anything you like

[Deleted]

Really? English cuisine just got a bump up. haha

The majority of dishes that you'll see on Indian restaurant/takeaway menus are dishes that were invented by Indian immigrants to Britain back during the Empire.

[alexw]

Just wondering, why people think multi culture is a good thing for a country? Never figured out why 1 culture isn't good.

Because it supercharges the wealth creation process. There's a reason why the big wealth generating centers are all extremely diverse. Sure, if you want second world status then mono-cultures are fine, but not if you want first. Personally I prefer to remain first world, how about you?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...es-us-smarter/

Decades of research by organizational scientists, psychologists, sociologists, economists and demographers show that socially diverse groups (that is, those with a diversity of race, ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation) are more innovative than homogeneous groups. It seems obvious that a group of people with diverse individual expertise would be better than a homogeneous group at solving complex, nonroutine problems. It is less obvious that social diversity should work in the same way—yet the science shows that it does. This is not only because people with different backgrounds bring new information. Simply interacting with individuals who are different forces group members to prepare better, to anticipate alternative viewpoints and to expect that reaching consensus will take effort.

[Endus]

Why so it's a good thing? I'm wondering because I always thought it's nice having own culture and learning about other cultures by visiting other countries.

It's a "good thing" because diversity brings new perspectives on things, because complexity and variety are net gains. Alexw's link above is a better description than I could give.

You can still have "your own culture" and learn about other cultures WITHOUT leaving your own country. I could attend any number of cultural fairs in my region. Or visit ethnic restaurants. And so forth. I don't need to go to Vietnam to take a course on Vietnamese cooking from a Vietnamese chef, when I can get the same course at my local cooking school (as I did last week), from the same Vietnamese chef.

[Shinra1]

Multi culture is fine, so long as 1 culture is always seen as the "main" culture that takes desirable aspects from other cultures.

I don't agree with your idea that one culture should be seen as more important. Ideas like this one are the reason why some people from certain cultures find it harder to fit in. There should never be a requirement on any person or property to assimilate into the host nation's culture beyond being modestly courteous to the citizens of said nation. The host country should be making more of an effort to make people feel welcome.

Lastly, I also think that adopting 'desirable' aspects from other cultures shouldn't be done without acknowledging the culture from which it originated as otherwise what you're purporting is cultural appropriation/culture vulture.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Look at every civilisation in the world. They are ALL a result of the many cultures coming together to produce something.....better. Rome, Greece. The US. China, Russia. The UK. The bringing together of many cultures produces stronger cultures, as the best aspects of each are maintained, while the bad things get weeded out. It the macro equivalent of bringing outside genes into a breeding pool.

If you want your culture to be the civilisation equivalent of that group of hillbillies living in the wild and marrying their own daughters, then sure, you go for that. But don't be surprised when you end up with an in-bred civilisation with all manner of nasty genetic problems. While the rest of the world gets stronger and leaves you in the dust.

[dvaz]

1) Food

2) Asian girls

I would say Persian girls too but most of the them are hiding under a ninja costume so its hard to say.

/thread

[Deleted]

I don't agree with your idea that one culture should be seen as more important. Ideas like this one are the reason why some people from certain cultures find it harder to fit in. There should never be a requirement on any person or property to assimilate into the host nation's culture beyond being modestly courteous to the citizens of said nation. The host country should be making more of an effort to make people feel welcome.

This sort of attitude leads to a lack of integration, ghettos forming and an overall increase in racial tensions.

It is not a host countries responsibility to make you feel comfortable, that is your responsibility if you move to a country.

As for whether you agree with it or not, it is how the most successful countries in the world for nearly the past century, have operated.

[Blur4stuff]

People tend to hate or be afraid of things they don't understand. It's also easier to maintain a lie if the audience is clueless. When I grew up in Alabama, my family and the community was fairly racist and xenophobic. They passed around nonsense about other races/cultures as if they were facts. They used that nonsense as a reason to distrust/hate anyone that wasn't a white southern christian.

At the very least you should learn about other cultures so you can have informed discussions instead of being vulnerable to lies and propaganda.

[Deleted]

Because communists spread into Western academia. They like to indoctrinate young people. It's easier.

[rogueMatthias]

We need some definitions here or this thread is going to go on some tangents quick. I feel there's a regional divide on how people define this too.

Countries have always had a mix of all different people. Here in the UK, we've had people from all over the world integrate into British culture, and British culture has regularly adapted with all the people coming into the country. This is more of a "melting pot" approach though. This is the old way of doing things. It doesn't mean that any cultures are abandoned or put down, just they kind of mix and influence each other. Take Britains love of curry as an example, and how even shows like "Goodness Gracious me" can look at Indian culture and communities but be so incredibly British at the same time.

Then we have Blair's multi-culturalism. The idea behind this was that British culture could be made of many completely INDEPENDENT cultures, that didn't need to interact with each other or make attempts to integrate. You could have Pakistani Muslim schools for Pakistani Muslims and similar, people could have their own "Sharia Courts", and the police would more and more regularly turn a blind eye on these different communities for fear of interfering with their customs or angering communities. There are loads of rules that could be bent or changed to fit with communities.

This can only ever lead to tribalism, more racial tension and increased abuse of the system. It failed. Badly.

[Wyrt]

What's the alternative? Going back to tar and feathering Germans for the horrible crime of speaking German?

[Kujako]

What's the alternative? Going back to tar and feathering Germans for the horrible crime of speaking German?

Well you have to admit... they do always sound like they're plotting something.

[Shinra1]

This sort of attitude leads to a lack of integration, ghettos forming and an overall increase in racial tensions.

It is not a host countries responsibility to make you feel comfortable, that is your responsibility if you move to a country.

As for whether you agree with it or not, it is how the most successful countries in the world for nearly the past century, have operated.

What you are demanding is assimilation not integration and that could never be a good thing in my book as it breeds a very dangerous notion that Western cultures are superior and more civilised than non-Western cultures which is a preposterous lie that is currently taught in our schools. White ghettos are prevalent in the UK and US so let's not kid ourselves. People live in ghettos not because they choose but because they lack the means - socio-economics - to live in less troubled areas. Ghettos are the result of failed economic systems and greed. I also question why you felt the need to label areas concentrated with non-native people as a ghetto and I believe that is both prejudicial and unfair. There is nothing wrong with white people living in an all white area but heaven forbid that black and brown people from different cultures live in neighbourhoods that is full of their own people.

[Krigaren]

This sort of attitude leads to a lack of integration, ghettos forming and an overall increase in racial tensions.

Racism is a hell of a thing, isn't it? There's also a difference between assimilation and integration. People coming to the US shouldn't be required to check their own culture at the door, and existing US citizens shouldn't harass, threaten, and force people into cultural ghettos due to racism.

As for whether you agree with it or not, it is how the most successful countries in the world for nearly the past century, have operated.

There is a certain irony to the idea that the "most successful countries in the world" have operated this way, given that the very successful ones are the result of colonial expansionism that committed cultural and literal genocide against native peoples, and stripped their lands and culture of anything valuable.

Like, it's super hilarious to see Brits talk about immigrants needing to assimilate into British life, when the English spread across the globe like a virus and forced major cultures (India and China foremost) under the boot, then robbed them blind.

[Gimlix]

What's the alternative? Going back to tar and feathering Germans for the horrible crime of speaking German?

Am i the only one who thinks german language sounds so awesome

[Sky High]

uh, who is arguing a single culture is a bad thing necessarily? it's just advantageous to share ideas/goods/customs with other people.