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    Young LePen supporters: 'We are the future and this is what we want'

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7712391.html

    Laughing and waving French flags, the atmosphere in the queue to enter Marine Le Pen’s rally was effervescent.

    Chanting “Marine Présidente”, thousands had made their way from across France to the exhibition hall in the northern Paris suburb of Villepinte – a diverse area where the majority voted for far-left candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon, so it is far from a stronghold for Ms Le Pen's Front National party.

    But that didn't seem to matter to those who turned out for the far-right candidate’s last major rally before the final round of the French presidential election on Sunday.

    As queues formed in front of two kiosks selling sandwiches and hot drinks, one man said: “At least here they sell French crepes instead of kebabs.”Friends, families and young children were among the crowd, which was made up mostly of young people – some of whom were too young to vote.

    Dressed in blue and red stripped T-shirts, a group of school pupils, aged between 14 and 17-years-old, were franticly waving French flags and boards with Ms Le Pen’s slogan “Choose France”.

    “We are France’s future and this is what we want,” said one of the girls, from the wealthy area of Versailles in the south west of the French capital.

    “To save France,” said another boy in the group, who was also too young to go to the ballot box. “Whatever is going on now cannot continue.”

    Many echoed Ms Le Pen’s key campaign pledges including controlled borders and the revival of France’s political and economic sovereignty and security
    Some of those younger activists, who reject the traditional left and right-wing parties, have found a place of their own within the Front National party by running for local offices across the country.

    Marie Desmazieres, 27, a Front National elected representative for a region in northern France, told The Independent issues around French identity and the love for her country prompted her to take an active role in the party.

    “There are many young people like me, who are holding public offices," she said. "Young people are very attracted by the Front National because it is mainly young people, who feel concerned about mass immigration. They are living it every day.

    “The Front National also believes in young people because it believes in the future and it gives a place to young people. The party has trusted me by putting my name on a ballot paper and like me there are dozens of young people being elected into office for the party.

    “Because of the traditional parties that have been in power for a long time, the situation in France is getting worse by the day. We are young and we want to try something else.”
    It's refreshing, but also sad that young people care about their future yet are ignored by old elitist neo-liberal parties.

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    Yes, because 14 year olds really know a lot about national policy.

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    Why can't I have French crepes AND kebab?

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    It's refreshing, but also sad that young people care about politics, but are already so misinformed and misguided at a young age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeth View Post
    It's refreshing, but also sad that young people care about politics, but are already so misinformed and misguided at a young age.
    Because not wanting France to become an African Islamic state is somehow a bad thing........right

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Because not wanting France to become an African Islamic state is somehow a bad thing........right
    Right...it's not becoming an Islamic state. The vast majority of people in France agree with these youths - they don't want France to become an Islamic state either. But they also recognize that LePen will be damaging to France in many other ways. Elections are not and should not be single policy events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    Right...it's not becoming an Islamic state. The vast majority of people in France agree with these youths - they don't want France to become an Islamic state either. But they also recognize that LePen will be damaging to France in many other ways. Elections are not and should not be single policy events.
    Sometimes its needed to get a point across. Look at Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Because not wanting France to become an African Islamic state is somehow a bad thing........right
    Only paranoid insane idiots who have no view on reality and are scared little brats think any country in europe is even close to becoming an African state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Only paranoid insane idiots who have no view on reality and are scared little brats think any country in europe is even close to becoming an African state.
    I seem to remember hearing the same sort of comments made at those who were afraid that America would eventually become a majority-minority country.

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    Hopefully you get exactly what you ask for.

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    Even if LePen loses which is most likely, Macron will just result in business as usual making her stronger next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Only paranoid insane idiots who have no view on reality and are scared little brats think any country in europe is even close to becoming an African state.
    Must be some strong kool aid over there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildberry View Post
    I seem to remember hearing the same sort of comments made at those who were afraid that America would eventually become a majority-minority country.
    It did, now the non-immigrants live on reservations :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by woozie21 View Post
    Sometimes its needed to get a point across. Look at Trump.
    Look at Trump for what? He's a good example of why not to vote LePen. All he's done so far is wasted our money on vacations. I would actually expect LePen to be much more destructive - fortunately, Trump is at least completely ineffective as a politician and lawmaker.

    That aside, you're actually completely wrong. One should never make an election a single policy issue just to 'get a point across'. That strategy just reeks of populist fundamentalism. Most voters don't have a damn clue about the details of the things they support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildberry View Post
    I seem to remember hearing the same sort of comments made at those who were afraid that America would eventually become a majority-minority country.
    Yea These are he people that think having half the country unable to read English is culturally enriching but somehow think the US won't become Mexico 2.0 in 50 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Must be some strong kool aid over there
    The irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    It did, now the non-immigrants live on reservations :P
    Seems like we should take the hint and avoid racial displacement at all costs then, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Yea These are he people that think having half the country unable to read English is culturally enriching but somehow think the US won't become Mexico 2.0 in 50 years
    Remember, it's a loony conspiracy theory to chart demographic trends. Until it's absolutely obvious, of course, then it's a positive and enriching experience and it's too late to do anything about it anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeth View Post
    It's refreshing, but also sad that young people care about politics, but are already so misinformed and misguided at a young age.
    It is part of being young. You join extreme parties like the far Right or the like the far left. Join a group that you are embarrassed about being part of in your later years. It is part of growing up and every generation has its youth rebellion.
    I be more worried if the Younger generation did not pick up a cause like every other generation did. Because that just means they are souless at a time when it is normal to start forming your own opinnions.

    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Because not wanting France to become an African Islamic state is somehow a bad thing........right
    I remember people like you from the 90s.
    "We cant let the Eastern Europeans in the EU, they will turn us into Colonies."
    "If we let the Eastern Europeans in they will just leech benefits"
    "We should not let the eastern Europeans in they are all rapists and criminals"
    "If we let the Eastern Europeans in they will all /insert topic"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotutha View Post
    It is part of being young. You join extreme parties like the far Right or the like the far left. Join a group that you are embarrassed about being part of in your later years. It is part of growing up and every generation has its youth rebellion.
    I be more worried if the Younger generation did not pick up a cause like every other generation did. Because that just means they are souless at a time when it is normal to start forming your own opinnions.



    I remember people like you from the 90s.
    "We cant let the Eastern Europeans in the EU, they will turn us into Colonies."
    "If we let the Eastern Europeans in they will just leech benefits"
    "We should not let the eastern Europeans in they are all rapists and criminals"
    "If we let the Eastern Europeans in they will all /insert topic"
    How many did you let in

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Because not wanting France to become an African Islamic state is somehow a bad thing........right
    you know do you even know how many Muslims live in france?

    If a population of 5 to 7% can make a country majority Muslim then maybe you should be questioning, in this case, the weakness of the current french society in general.

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