Active shooter reported on Dallas-area college campus

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College seems to be quite action packed.

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There would be the same amount of wrong-doers. A gun cant ever be held be responsible for a decision, it's always the person who makes the choice.

Even if there would be the same amount of wrong-doers, they would not be half as lethal.
And the second bit is even more dishonest, no none is holding "the gun responsible for a decision", but rather, people simply do not trust "responsible gun owners", and with good reason.

[Ghostpanther]

Even if there would be the same amount of wrong-doers, they would not be half as lethal.
And the second bit is even more dishonest, no none is holding "the gun responsible for a decision", but rather, people simply do not trust "responsible gun owners", and with good reason.

Which is not a valid reason when the great majority of gun crimes are not committed by responsible gun owners.

[Mormolyce]

It might mean nothing to you but guns as a recreational activity are important to a lot of people who would never break any laws otherwise. I don't see how you can condemn so many innocent people's desire to keep their guns when it isn't even conclusive that gun control would be an effective homicide deterrent. Look at Lott's research or how gun control activists frequently pad homicide data with suicides as evidence of that inconclusiveness.

The US's homicide rate is about 4 times that of its peers, NOT including suicides.

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Which is not a valid reason when the great majority of gun crimes are not committed by responsible gun owners.

Right, and how exactly do these people get those guns? Mostly from "responsible gun owners" who had their weapon somehow stolen, how responsible are you when you have your weapon stolen!?
And then we have the other reason why gun crimes are not committed by "responsible gun owners" because the moment they commit the crime they are no longer considered to be "responsible gun owners", how handy is that!

[Deletedaccount1]

The US's homicide rate is about 4 times that of its peers, NOT including suicides.

There are many things that factor into that homicide rate. The two states with the lowest homicide rates are also the ones with the 1st and 5th most lax gun laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/guns

[Mormolyce]

There are many things that factor into that homicide rate. The two states with the lowest homicide rates are also the ones with the 1st and 5th most lax gun laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/guns

You have no states with gun control.

[Deletedaccount1]

You have no states with gun control.

There are states with laws regulating or banning firearms.

[Dystemper]

We already have a gun control thread

[GennGreymane]

Texas lets you bring guns to school

WHERE IS THE GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!?!?!?

[primalmatter]

This spiraled into political point scoring rather quickly... Is it even over yet?

[DarkAmbient]

It would be news if a day went by in America without a shooting.

[GennGreymane]

This spiraled into political point scoring rather quickly... Is it even over yet?

*cough cough*

ironic.

[Ghostpanther]

Right, and how exactly do these people get those guns? Mostly from "responsible gun owners" who had their weapon somehow stolen, how responsible are you when you have your weapon stolen!?
And then we have the other reason why gun crimes are not committed by "responsible gun owners" because the moment they commit the crime they are no longer considered to be "responsible gun owners", how handy is that!

How do you know that is how they mostly get them? You do know guns are also smuggled across the border and shops are broke into. But yeah, I will grant you some are also stolen off individuals. But because some cars are stolen and then used in a crime, the ones who owned them legally should not be able have them because they were stolen? And your last point fails to mention that the great majority of gun crimes are committed by people who would not normally be able to get one legally.

[zenkai]

How do you know that is how they mostly get them? You do know guns are also smuggled across the border and shops are broke into. But yeah, I will grant you some are also stolen off individuals. But because some cars are stolen and then used in a crime, the ones who owned them legally should not be able have them because they were stolen? And your last point fails to mention that the great majority of gun crimes are committed by people who would not normally be able to get one legally.

Trying to use common sense in a sea of madness.

[Ghostpanther]

Trying to use common sense in a sea of madness.

Lol! True. Funny how it is normally not the gun rights people who turn these gun related threads into a gun control issue. But I do enjoy defending the rights of people in the US to keep and bear arms.

This case is just another incident of some scum bag wanting to force their will on others. To blame the tool used is ridiculous.

[Mormolyce]

There are states with laws regulating or banning firearms.

So pissweak that nobody outside the US would consider it gun control, in a country with almost as many guns as people, rendering regional laws irrelevant.

[Ghostpanther]

So pissweak that nobody outside the US would consider it gun control, in a country with almost as many guns as people, rendering regional laws irrelevant.

Sorry, but our Constitution and laws pertaining to issues within the US are primarily meant for US citizens. So your point is irrelevant.

[minteK917]

Sorry, but our Constitution and laws pertaining to issues within the US are primarily meant for US citizens. So your point is irrelevant.

If the US citizens prefer to live 10 years shorter on average, i will allow it.

[Ghostpanther]

If the US citizens prefer to live 10 years shorter on average, i will allow it.

It is not a issue you have any control over. Our life spans being affected from gun deaths is extremely low when you look at other reasons we die. Bad health care and lazy, abusive lifestyles have a far greater impact.