French Presidential Election, Vol. 2

[Torto]

It happens both ways. I consider myself center left, yet I get called a communist, or a libtard cuck from the alt right all the time.

Almost like they believe that center left = extreme left.

Fair call, point taken. However, as you are someone from the left, and this being a left wing forum (echo chamber), you have to admit that any views that are right of centre are always going to be skewed as extremist. And a lot of your views would be considered centrist by most forum posters here.

[Thepersona]

Now, in the donald reddit, this great image is on the first posts

http://i.magaimg.net/img/hr4.jpg

As a chilean, i cannot help but chuckle a little bit

[Volardelis]

Fair call, point taken. However, as you are someone from the left, and this being a left wing forum (echo chamber), you have to admit that any views that are right of centre are always going to be skewed as extremist. And a lot of your views would be considered centrist by most forum posters here.

Unless they clearly show that they are deeply involved with Trumps cult of personality, I don't refer to people that have conservative views as being part of the 'alt right'.

[Wyrt]

Now, in the donald reddit, this great image is on the first posts

http://i.magaimg.net/img/hr4.jpg

As a chilean, i cannot help but chuckle a little bit

It's really not that surprising that the Trumpkins like fascist dictators.

[Volardelis]

It's really not that surprising that the Trumpkins like fascist dictators.

"but we aren't fascists! or even like fascism!" - Trump supporters

[Thepersona]

It's really not that surprising that the Trumpkins like fascist dictators.

And inept fascist dictators too, because cmon... he left the economy in shambles

[Torto]

Unless they clearly show that they are deeply involved with Trumps cult of personality, I don't refer to people that have conservative views as being part of the 'alt right'.

I'm not from the US, but if I was I wouldn't of voted for Trump (I wouldn't of voted at all). I only agree with half his shit, but I'll argue for his policies I do agree with.

Does that make me 'alt-right'? Does it even make me a Trump supporter?

[Kallisto]

Fair call, point taken. However, as you are someone from the left, and this being a left wing forum (echo chamber), you have to admit that any views that are right of centre are always going to be skewed as extremist. And a lot of your views would be considered centrist by most forum posters here.

AND here we have the mind of the delusional.

No it isn't here a person on the centre right would be considered centre right. It's out there in the real world. You're being called Alt-Right because the stuff you say tick all the checks the Alt right (Which they called themselves, not something that was made up by those who oppose them). The fact you think yourself as centre right and that Skroe is a leftist shows how out of touch with reality you are.

You have also yet to show why how small puny countries with no power on the diplomatic level is able to be better than countries coming together with a democratic mandate with a bigger unified voice. Getting better deals for their people.

[May90]

I'm not from the US, but if I was I wouldn't of voted for Trump (I wouldn't of voted at all). I only agree with half his shit, but I'll argue for his policies I do agree with.

Does that make me 'alt-right'? Does it even make me a Trump supporter?

This isn't about you, mate; most people don't care about you, me or Skroe. This is about the tendency, the large amount of people supporting populist psychopaths. If you are not one, that doesn't change the fact that there are ones out there, and they currently form a strong political force.

These camp wars, "us vs them"... I have about equally low opinion on Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump - which camp do I belong to? You tell me. Am I a leftie, or a rightie? Or maybe, after all, the world is a bit more complex than this childish nonsense?

[Garnier Fructis]

These camp wars, "us vs them"... I have about equally low opinion on Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump - which camp do I belong to? You tell me. Am I a leftie, or a rightie? Or maybe, after all, the world is a bit more complex than this childish nonsense?

You're the far center.

[Volardelis]

I'm not from the US, but if I was I wouldn't of voted for Trump (I wouldn't of voted at all). I only agree with half his shit, but I'll argue for his policies I do agree with.

Does that make me 'alt-right'? Does it even make me a Trump supporter?

Since you disagree with at least half of his shit, and you said that wouldn't vote for him anyway. Then no, you are not 'alt-right'.

A Trump supporter is someone who supporters / defends Trump even on the most minor of things (and more importantly, would actually vote for him). Examples of the minor things would be stuff like the #crowdgate 'debate' at the very start of his term. Or saying #fakenews to everything that factually reports on something negative about Trump.

Alt-right is very similar to a Trump supporter, but they take a more trollish attitude to it. Using memes and other material (such as buzzwords like cuck) to try and trigger 'liberals'. They also flock to people like Richard Spencer (the founder of the alt-right movement and a known neo-nazi) and Steve Bannon (founder of Brietbart news, a known 'news site' for the alt right)

[Torto]

AND here we have the mind of the delusional.

No it isn't here a person on the centre right would be considered centre right. It's out there in the real world. You're being called Alt-Right because the stuff you say tick all the checks the Alt right (Which they called themselves, not something that was made up by those who oppose them). The fact you think yourself as centre right and that Skroe is a leftist shows how out of touch with reality you are.

You have also yet to show why how small puny countries with no power on the diplomatic level is able to be better than countries coming together with a democratic mandate with a bigger unified voice. Getting better deals for their people.

What exactly is it I'm saying that screams alt-right?

Is it because I don't believe in a centralised government in Europe? Because i support Israel over the Arabs? Because I don't believe in AGW? Because I believe in small government and low taxes? Are these views really that extremist to you?

[Thepersona]

You're the far center.

we have a term for that: Democracia Cristiana (Christian Democracy). it's at the very center of politics in my country, and likes to play for both sides

[May90]

You're the far center.

But which center? Far left center, or far right center?

Oh, I think, I figured it out. I support internationalism (which originated on the left) and deregulated free market (which originated on the right). So... I have both wings and can fly!

we have a term for that: Democracia Cristiana (Christian Democracy). it's at the very center of politics in my country, and likes to play for both sides

Doesn't work either: I dislike religions, including Christianity.

[Torto]

This isn't about you, mate; most people don't care about you, me or Skroe. This is about the tendency, the large amount of people supporting populist psychopaths. If you are not one, that doesn't change the fact that there are ones out there, and they currently form a strong political force.

These camp wars, "us vs them"... I have about equally low opinion on Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump - which camp do I belong to? You tell me. Am I a leftie, or a rightie? Or maybe, after all, the world is a bit more complex than this childish nonsense?

Which is exactly my point, yet because i believe Macron to be socialist and I don't like his pro-European stance, I get labelled alt-right by so-called centrists like Skroe. It seems the definition gets changed to suit an argument (or to belittle someone you disagree with).

[NED funded]

Which is exactly my point, yet because i believe Macron to be socialist and I don't like his pro-European stance, I get labelled alt-right by so-called centrists like Skroe. It seems the definition gets changed to suit an argument (or to belittle someone you disagree with).

LOL, Macron is not socialist mate. He might be socially liberal, but does not imply in any way he is socialist.

[Kaleredar]

That's why the gdp is at an multi year high..

Just like how it kept going up under Obama, right?

Or were those numbers fake?

To answer: Zero, because the swamp is going to be drained.

Sorry, you didn't get the memo. Trump already said that that was just a soundbite to rile up his voter base.

Though I mean if you still believe that, I guess he decided he needed to fill the swamp to the brim before he'd get to draining it, right?

Or is girding yourself in Wall Street shills was "drain the swamp" was all about to begin with? I thought "Shillary" was the sell out?

[Kallisto]

What exactly is it I'm saying that screams alt-right?

Is it because I don't believe in a centralised government in Europe? Because i support Israel over the Arabs? Because I don't believe in AGW? Because I believe in small government and low taxes? Are these views really that extremist to you?

Well we can start with your anti science stance for one. Alt Right seems to have a thing against scientific knowledge. Or thinking Macron who has a centre right economic thought process to be socialist.

[Sky High]

yet because i believe Macron to be socialist

^ hates to be mislabeled
^ proceeds to mislabel someone else

great show ol' sport

[Deletedaccount1]

I feel like Macron is going to be worse than his predecessors so people will lose faith in small parties and then the Republicans and Socialists will start taking winning elections again.