Mythic+ as Frost

[Deleted]

This screen is here to show that you should not play Frost in m+? Around 600k total dps is a bit... low.

Seems more like they're all not capable of pushing a 20+ key. *shrug*

[Imaskar]

That was a sloppy run (+16), we wiped 2 times. Look at relative positions, not numbers.

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That was a sloppy run (+16), we wiped 2 times. Look at relative positions, not numbers.

Still dont't get it. Running with weak players / underperforming specs don't make u strong. If frost is not last in Total dps then your party membrs are just weak or they are playing weaker ST specs with no AoE (arms). Decent performance atm is around 1kk Total dps. As Arcane i am pulling often around 1.6kk-1.8kk Total dps on most runs.

Frost is just not so good for m+.

[Imaskar]

Link your WCL stats maybe? Becuse overall stats don't seem to support your claims.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...gregate=amount for +20
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...gregate=amount for +16
I don't see
a) 1.3m overall dps
b) arcane getting ahead of frost (only in lower keys, like +10, but fire is king there anyway)

[Deleted]

Link your WCL stats maybe? Becuse overall stats don't seem to support your claims.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...gregate=amount for +20
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statist...gregate=amount for +16
I don't see
a) 1.3m overall dps
b) arcane getting ahead of frost (only in lower keys, like +10, but fire is king there anyway)

Arcane mage parses: 1

M8 noone is logging mythic+ lol.

Edit:
Just for you, I made DHT+14 with some random people. This week we have Raging/Necrotic/Tyrannical which is one of the worsts weeks for arcane:
http://imgur.com/a/T8inp

Like I said before, I did decent on that run because i get only 1kk dps. With more organized group it would be much higher

[Kluian05]

Arcane should def beat Frost in Mythic+ for overall, from the fact their burst AoE is better and they can drink between pulls if needed.

That doesn't mean frost is bad for Mythic+. They can do good AoE DPS and very good single target.

[Ilara]

Higher level mythics are fine as frost tbh, it's the lower level ones that suck. Mobs die pretty quickly and tanks just either move mobs out of my blizzard or the demon hunter nuked them to 50% before I even finish my blizzard cast.

[Deleted]

Like I said before, I did decent on that run because i get only 1kk dps. With more organized group it would be much higher [/QUOTE]

Man,why hide names ? If you have better itemlvl,stats and legendaries than rest of party,obv you should be top dps with every spec. Btw i'm very interested to arcane/frost playstile in m+,but not with incomplete screen like this..

[Deleted]

Ofc I was higher ilvl but that is not the point. I didn't want to show how I top the charts. I only wanted to show that 600k dps with 907~ ilvl is not as high as the guy who posted screenshot where he is second as frost thinks.
Currently Arcane is God tier dps for M+ due to his sick AoE and huge St burst.
Where Frost is medicore IF they Player who plays it is really good.

Ps.
My Group was like 913ilvl (Naustis ) and 2 other dps were around 902-906ilvl.

[pudgeball]

I mean the whole point of the original post was to work out how to do more i.e. 1kk DPS...

[D3athsting]

i got Kj burning wish 3 days ago and found to be quite terrible for m+ for mage, doesn't scale with vers, can't crit (100% crit = no crit), 890 grimoire only does a bit less dmg (when it doesn't crit) and doesn't take a legendary slot that i find better using for frost belt and bracers

i usually run 900 metronome and 890 burning sky for trash and burning sky+ 890 grimoire for massive aoe (e.g. lower khara)

[Riistov]

Ahahah in 7.1 sure, but no MM is now the strongest aoe m+ spec in game, and BM has quite poor aoe, and instead is a ST god.

Not sure its better than Ele. M+ is made for chain lightning

[Emerald Archer]

Not sure its better than Ele. M+ is made for chain lightning

On a single pack, Ele can burst higher than MM with all cds, but the thing with MM is that we can burst much more often. So over an entire dungeon we're much higher.