Trump Fires FBI Director Comey

[Kujako]

He wasn't referring to Trump as the "extraordinary" President. You gotta read the whole post from Skroe to see it.

Yeah sorry... drifted off a bit half way through.

[Wyrt]

If i'm correct by great president he meant reagan... and i would disagree, but at least Reagan loved his country and is still rolling in his grave for what trump did to his party, and the presidency

Reagan is basically a saint to Republicans even though he was a shitty president with a shitty economic plan.

[cubby]

Not really sure what you're meaning here. Skroe was referring to Reagan

I'm pretty curious on @Skroe take on Reagan. We're gonna need to have some kind of sub-forum/depository of things-written-by-Skroe.

[Thepersona]

Of course that's who he meant., haha. Republicans will forever swear he was the 2nd coming of Lincoln.

2nd coming of jesus*, the free market version. But seriously, why all of the love for him? Because of the fall of the ussr soon after he left? I'd really like to know
I mean, his plan (trickle down) was, is and will always be a disaster, so i dunno... and the handling of hiv was... an arctifact level failure

[Kujako]

Reagan is basically a saint to Republicans even though he was a shitty president with a shitty economic plan.

Saint Reagan and President Reagan where not the same people. One never raised taxes for example. While the other gave an impassioned speech about separation of church and state and respecting islam.

[alexw]

But I want to read the Russian probe!

You're of course 100% right. Better to let it go.

Yeah I've got to that point as well. There are some folks on here that are so delusional that reality will never ever be allowed to intrude, despite that reality staring them right in the face as it is in this case. Ignore them then let them be surprised when Trump is impeached and they wonder why on earth why.

[Alydael]

Because you've decided to selectively ignore your own god-figure Trump, who specifically said so.

I know it is hard for a Dem to envision but, i don't subscribe to either party. I don't like the DNC or RNC because their track record is terrible and they practice the "politics of personal destruction and division." I believe true leaders unite, not seek to divide. So, I didn't vote for trump and really don't care what happens to him.

I know everyone is deeply locked into the Dem v Pub, us v them, left v right, lib v con way of thinking, but that modality of thought really doesn't appeal to me. My beliefs can't be summed up in one simple all encompassing ideology passed down by the Pubs or dems sorry.

I know it is hard to imagine but just because I don't agree with the Dem talking points on an issue doesn't make me Pub and just because I don't agree with the Pubs on an issue doesn't make me Dem. I try to look at the facts of each case and decide for myself. It doesn't matter to me if my decision falls into the Dem camp or Pub camp.

I do believe in facts though:

Fact: there is no actual investigation on Trump in regards to the Russian hacking. There is no evidence of it anywhere.

Fact: Trump has been convicted of no wrong doing in any situation. In America, you are innocent until proven guilty- even if shadowferal doesn't like you (sorry).

Fact: Trump was totally within his authority as president to fire Comey.

There you go. Maybe in the future evidence will prove trump colluded with russia, who knows what the future will bring?

As of this moment, it is all smoke and mirrors blown by the Dems- just trying to bring Trump down- "the politics of personal destruction and division" are in full swing.

[alexw]

Of course that's who he meant., haha. Republicans will forever swear he was the 2nd coming of Lincoln.

Don't you mean Jesus?

[Azadina]

Reagan is basically a saint to Republicans even though he was a shitty president with a shitty economic plan.

Well, he did give them an extra religion that many of them still believe in today. Called trickle down economics.

i don't subscribe to either party.

Let me guess. Another "independent awoke"?

It's getting old really fast, when not a single one of them claiming that on this forum make even the minimal effort to appear as they claim.

[NYC17]

2nd coming of jesus*, the free market version. But seriously, why all of the love for him? Because of the fall of the ussr soon after he left? I'd really like to know
I mean, his plan (trickle down) was, is and will always be a disaster, so i dunno... and the handling of hiv was... an arctifact level failure

Skroe's an unabashed Republican. You'll have to ask him.

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Don't you mean Jesus?

Nah, they view Reagan as the man who singlehandedly saved America from...whatever.

[Thepersona]

Skroe's an unabashed Republican. You'll have to ask him.

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Nah, they view Reagan as the man who singlehandedly saved America from...whatever.

I wouldnt call him republican with that level of confidence, considering how the republican power structure is behaving, and how a ton of the base is part of the deplorables.
Conservative? Yeah obviously

[Stormspark]

Behold my absolutely terrible photoshop skills.

[NYC17]

I wouldnt call him republican with that level of confidence, considering how the republican power structure is behaving, and how a ton of the base is part of the deplorables.
Conservative? Yeah obviously

From what I've seen he considers himself a True Republican, which is fine. Anyway, Skroe's party identification really isn't that interesting to me so here's this...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/financi...obe-1494625140

[Floopa]

I'd figure the more extreme tories to like Trump, tho. Mostly the ones coming back from the UKIP.

i would've voted for trump over hillary for sure, but i don't support him. i just think wasting your time and effort on "impeachment opportunities" that wont happen is rather pointless.

fwiw, i consider myself conservative but i'm all for social welfare programs (NHS, JSA, etc) in order to help the unfortunate/less privileged in society. i certainly don't mind paying my tax rate considering only 12% (imo) of it is wasted.

oh, and if you're going to ask why i would've voted for trump over hillary (if given the opportunity): any candidate who's message is entirely selfish "I'm with her" is not a candidate that is worth voting for. candidacy should be selfless, that is what trump ran on- a selfless message to the American public: "i will make america great again", "i will sacrifice the presidential salary", "i will bring back jobs". of course, these are all fancy headlines and soundbites but the entire discussion surrounding hillary was "i am a woman", "i am a woman", "i am a woman". as much as i respect certain women in politics: teresa may, maggie thatcher, diana, even sturgeon to some degree, hillary was not a woman i thought deserved respect.

[Alydael]

Well, he did give them an extra religion that many of them still believe in today. Called trickle down economics.



Let me guess. Another "independent awoke"?

It's getting old really fast, when not a single one of them claiming that on this forum make even the minimal effort to appear as they claim.

I am a registered independent since 18 and have never voted for a Dem or Pub in a major election..... I vote locally based on issues I care about.

I don't have to "make and effort to appear as i claim" becuase:

1) I really don't care if you believe me or not. Whether you believe me or not is actually more of a reflection on you than me (if you ever took any psych, i think they even cover it in intro)

2) I am what I am and really don't have to prove it to anyone.

On this issue- I sided with the Pubs. On the Obamacare issue- I side with the dems. On the Syrian missle strike- I don't think I sided with either party because I didn;t support it in any way (not sure where the Dems stood on it, figure the Pubs support it because Trump did it). I also don't support the recent moves towards NK.

Just because I am independent doesn't mean I don't agree with a party on an issue here or there, it just means that I don't subscribe to either parties overall philosophy and I don't support them. That doesn't mean I don't agree with one or the other sometimes. Most of the time though, I see a solution neither party could see because of their ideology.


How does that work for you? Not everyone is indoctrinated by the parties. Independents tend to be mostly misunderstood because:

1) We don't really have a voice or way to get out our message.
2) We don't really hold any major offices nor do we have a great deal of money like the RNC and DNC.
3) Everyone is so Dem v Pub, I don't think they even believe an independent can truly exist....

[Queen of Hamsters]

This is unsettling. I'm afraid to see who he'll nominate.

Won't whomever he nominates need to pass senate first?

Trump can't even keep his lies straight...

[mvaliz]

The only ones lying are those twisting people's words. My entire point was that all those scandals are the same because of the way they are used to damage their political opponents not on a factual basis.

Then let the investigation go forward. If you REALLY believe Deplorable Dumbass Dump to be innocent, the investigation would prove that - wouldn't it?

You see... you're resisting the investigation because, even you - deep down, realize there's a likely chance you've been conned - that your great amazing brilliant baboon is really just a baboon, and you can't face your own fears and shame if you are wrong.

[Poopymonster]

I'm a fan of Jerry Pournelle's CoDominium series of scifi books.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoDominium

Might something like that happen in the future between the US and China, sometime in the last quarter of this century? The Firefly tv show alluded to this in its own way. Maybe something like the Treaty of Tordesillas that divided the New World between Spain and Portugal.

China agrees to leave the Americas, Western Europe, N Africa, and Japan alone, and the US agrees that mainland Asia, Eastern Europe, and sub-Saharan Africa are in the Chinese sphere of influence. Basically divide the planet in half and GG.

I loved War World when I was a teenager, and Mote series was hilarious. When asked to write reports about their time among the "motie" aliens, didn't one of the people title his "How I spent my summer vacation"?

OT: Just when you think he hits rock bottom, he gets a shovel, and starts digging*.

*Hires a company to do it, criticizes the job, refuses to pay, and bleeds the company out through long lengthy court battles

[Priestiality]

The Reagan love is pretty easy to explain. The rich got richer and he didn't get us into any wars. The wealthy are almost overwhelmingly Republican, therefore they see Reagan as the last successful Republican president because he gave them the means to start stockpiling their wealth with little to no regard for taxation.

[NYC17]

Won't whomever he nominates need to pass senate first?

Trump can't even keep his lies straight...

Yes, but the relative silence and recent behavior of Republicans doesn't instill much confidence in the possibility of their resistance to a bad nominee.