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    I feel like we may need to start hanging these images up in every room Trump regularly visits in the White House. Maybe have a second, more modern version that includes fingers/phones and social media.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    Ok, so if he's allowed to do whatever he wants, when he wants, and be excused from crimes, including where anyone else gets treason charge for, he's different from dictator....how?
    Exactly. It's highlighting the flaws in our checks and balances system. The current checks aren't working when they're on the same side and refuse to buck him on issues like this.

    I'm wondering if this may finally spark some backlash, but I'm not getting my hopes up. The GOP were having private discussions in recent weeks discussing how to deal with the Trump problem and his mental state that they felt was going to cause them huge headaches. Him now freely giving information to Russia like this HAS to be turning some heads....right? .....Right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    I guess if it strokes his ego, Leaks are good. If not, well he goes on a rant.
    Corrected for accuracy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Badly aged tweets, season 01 episode ∞




  5. #25
    Our worst fears confirmed.



    For anti-Trump people, this is excellent news believe it or not. I wrote yesterday that the most likely series of events is that the news story about Trump's relations with the Russians will break in Europe as a result of an official leak from their government to their media outlets, in response to Trump endangering their national security.

    Something like this (though not necessarily this) is exactly what it would take.

    Hang him for Treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndaliteBandit View Post
    Are you sharing in his narcissistic delusions of grandeur?
    I said I had a theory why he did it. Not that it was a good idea.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Recklessly endangering our efforts to combat terrorism and jeopardizing our relationships with allies, specifically their intelligence agencies.

    It's patently absurd that a president of the US would "declassify" (translation: brag about in an attempt to impress) top secret information to the god damn Russians as they're trolling this country and our president in the god damn White House.

    It's legal, but this is the kind of thing that, if confirmed, is indefensible despite the fact that it may be legal. Neither side of the isle should be remotely pleased with this.

    How long until he starts "declassifying" top secret details via Twitter, with no advanced notice to the Pentagon or our intelligence community?
    Let me know when it's illegal.

  8. #28
    In his meeting with Lavrov, Trump seemed to be boasting about his inside knowledge of the looming threat. “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” Trump said, according to an official with knowledge of the exchange.
    He talks about national security like he's hawking a Trump Steak on us.

    What the fuck?!

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Let me know when it's illegal.
    It doesn't have to necessarily be illegal to something that he could be impeached for, or added to the file for those seeking it. This is an outright natsec concern and Trump just shit all over our relations with the people on the ground giving us this information. It could also lead to our investigation being compromised and agents/methods being revealed.

    It's a huge fucking deal. Illegal? No. Dangerous as fuck? Absolutely. It proves that Trump can't be trusted with top secret information.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    For what exactly?
    For being a threat to national security and general all-round incompetence. That goes under the 25th amendment.

    I know you love him because of his white nationalist rhetoric, but you are going to need to find a white nationalist who isn't incompetent and doesn't pose a national security threat for 2020. Trump just isn't cutting it.

    Personally, I thought he'd be out sometime in early 2019 after the mid-terms. Looks like I was too generous in my estimation of Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    For most anyone in government discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.
    Goddamnit. This needs to change. We have a thin-skinned President who acts like a child publicly.

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    Can this just end already? This kind of stupidity is actually traumatizing. Only made worse by people WHO STILL STAND BEHIND THIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Let me know when it's illegal.
    If anyone needs an example of how far Trump's supporters will go.... ^----

    The security of the United States when classified information is revelead to our most aggressive adversary, is apparently not far enough.

    THis is why I say, for people like lockedout, the end of Trump is something that will happen to them, like their house burning down, or a flood washing away their lives. It's really not contingent on us to "explain" or "make it okay" with them. It's going to be fucking torture to people like him, and that's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekkle View Post
    Can this just end already? This kind of stupidity is actually traumatizing. Only made worse by people WHO STILL STAND BEHIND THIS.
    Anyone who is actually supporting that orange monkey needs to have their voting rights permanently removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Our worst fears confirmed.
    The ending is just the beginning repeating
    Everything goes away but comes back some day
    The ending is just the beginning repeating.

    I think we just got our feet wet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Nick Offerman tries so hard to appear stoic. The guy is really just a giggly teddy bear.
    Loved him in 2nd season of Fargo, I hope he gets casted in more serious stuff, see "The Founder".

  16. #36
    https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/s...31063295582209

    "Applause in the newsroom as the Russia-leak scoop breaks the Hollywood Access record for most readers per minute."

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    The President of the United States can share intelligence with other actors, as he sees fit. It is the job for NSA, CIA, etc. to obtain information and it is the job for the president, above all, to decide how to use it (including whether to classify/declassify/share it). Obviously he thinks sharing information about ISIS with the Russians is important in fighting terrorism.

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    Everyone knows by now that the Russians want the Islamic State destroyed even more than we do to protect their puppet Assad. We should be sharing ALL of our intelligence with the Russians and coordinating strikes until there is nothing left of Islamic State. There is no reason NOT to share intelligence with the Russians on this matter.

    The reason we don't share such intelligence with our "allies" in the region is because those "allies" are the very people funding Islamic State, like Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

    What really needs to happen is a fundamental shift in our allegiances in the region. Saudi Arabia and Turkey need to be given the boot, Iraq needs to be strengthened, Syria needs to be allowed to be rebuilt, and the Iranians need to be turned to our side after we straighten out a proper deal with them so that they don't get nuclear weapons (which would make Israel mad), but they are given guarantees that we won't attempt regime change against them so they don't feel the need to build nukes in the first place.

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    Hey, there's an question.

    Aren't those "allies" themselves created ISIS? Saudis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzkin View Post
    The President of the United States can share intelligence with other actors, as he sees fit. It is the job for NSA, CIA, etc. to obtain information and it is the job for the president, above all, to decide how to use it (including whether to classify/declassify/share it). Obviously he thinks sharing information about ISIS with the Russians is important in fighting terrorism.
    Or he just leaked it while bragging about it which is more likely given the rest of the conservation that was apparently had. He was bragging about receiving all this awesome intel and gave an example of it Russian officials. The example happened to be his briefing on a top secret terrorist plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsins View Post
    Everyone knows by now that the Russians want the Islamic State destroyed even more than we do to protect their puppet Assad. We should be sharing ALL of our intelligence with the Russians and coordinating strikes until there is nothing left of Islamic State. There is no reason NOT to share intelligence with the Russians on this matter.

    The reason we don't share such intelligence with our "allies" in the region is because those "allies" are the very people funding Islamic State, like Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

    What really needs to happen is a fundamental shift in our allegiances in the region. Saudi Arabia and Turkey need to be given the boot, Iraq needs to be strengthened, Syria needs to be allowed to be rebuilt, and the Iranians need to be turned to our side after we straighten out a proper deal with them so that they don't get nuclear weapons (which would make Israel mad), but they are given guarantees that we won't attempt regime change against them so they don't feel the need to build nukes in the first place.
    You don't share everything because it risks compromising the investigations and allowing agencies, countries, and methods to be exposed to your enemy. The information was being classified as so sensitive that no one knew the details but people who fell in the need to know category.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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