North Korea says US is now in Missile range!

[Independent voter]

Soviet Union[edit]
Various sources claim between 43 and 60 pilots from the Soviet Union attained ace status in the conflict.[2] Most sources claim around 50 pilots attained ace status during the Korean War, of whom many are very controversial.[9] Research by the United States Air Force named 52 pilots who may have had legitimate claim to the title. Little is known of some of the pilots and their combined tally is incompatible with the number of aircraft the USAF claims to have lost in the war.

The Korean war was a war between the Soviets and the UN.

The UN forces were

UN Command:[a]
*United States
*United Kingdom
*Canada
*Turkey
*Australia
*Philippines
*New Zealand
*Thailand
Ethiopia
Greece
France
*Colombia
*Belgium
South Africa
*Netherlands
*Luxembourg

*Denmark
*Italy
*India
*Israel[2]
*Norway
*Sweden

The Soviets were boycotting the UN so when the vote was called to protect Korea from the Soviets, they weren't there to say "nyet", they never made that mistake again.

Yes the Russians are very much responsible for the Hellhole that is North Korean and all the pain and suffering there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

[Theinquisition]

Sounds more sad than anything but hey do you.

I will thanks

[TheLimonTree]

All of this reminds me of a game of Civ where one of the AI has been shit talking all day but their military is so pathetic they're getting conquered by city states

[cuafpr]

on a good day with the wind are their backs maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe.

[Stormspark]

Classy as always tony. Wouldn't want Kim fucking up your larping gear now

It's already confirmed that NK can't get a missile anywhere near the US. They basically said "well this thing MIGHT get to Guam if we're lucky, and that's technically US territory..."

[Easo]

They are improving anyway, it cannot be denied. At some point it will reach the States. I am sure you can shoot them down, but no one wants to risk the possibility of failing to do that.
But the issue is that there are no real ways to make them give up the program, like the South Africa did. NK regime has shown impressive resilience to not fall appart as usually happens with dictatorships and who will attack Best Korea? There is no real resolution, while Kim only gains more leverage.

[Deleted]

I don't understand why we haven't taken out the little shit that thinks he's a dictator yet.

and then you act surprised foreign people want to fly planes into your buildings or become a nuclear power as fast as possible.

[downnola]

Nice victim complex. I was infering that NK chooses to make these statements towards the US based on thier history, in conjunction with my other post before that.

The amazing thing is that the media seems to prompt the idea that NK has all of a sudden decided to start testing missiles and building nukes out of nowhere. There is no respect for the history or politics of what came before. They completely ignore it and say 'they are crazy'. Its retarded.

Look, it's not hard to point fingers at the United States for the woes of every underdeveloped country. It's easy to rationalize that people around the world live under totalitarian brutality because of the cold war, colonialism, and/or U.S. Middle Eastern policy. However, it would be nice if left-leaning foreign policy analysis didn't always stem from the boring premise that the United States is the root cause of fucking evil in the world, rather than the genocidal maniacs that are holding the populations of their countries hostage for personal gain.

Here you have a country that is a fully realized real-life example of 1984 that can easily be broken down with a historical materialism based evaluation, yet the next level analysis you hear from the left gives Kim ill-Sung a free pass while placing the blame directly on the U.S. Ignore the mass starvation caused by the greed of the "glorious leaders". Don't bother acknowledging the gulags littered all over North Korea. Forget the fact that North Korea has regularly threatened South Korea with destruction and routinely provokes a defenseless Japan. There is always a way to avoid all of that shit and just go for the easy "it's imperialism" trope.

This way of thinking is pure narcissism when you hear it from western lefties. Whatever happened to the left that actually hated and fought against totalitarianism rather than making excuses for it?

[Justank]

We have Truman, who was a Democrat, to blame for the mess now in North Korea. If he had listed to MacArthur and let him fight the war to actually win it instead of a stale mate, Korea would be a united country now. I know MacArthur proposed using nukes there against the Chinese supply lines, but we could have not used those and still have beat China.

Love to hear what you think Truman was holding back on aside from our nuclear arsenal during the two years of stalemate. Perhaps if MacArthur had listened and not been so eager to push all the way up to the Yalu, China might not have even gotten involved, as the NK forces were routed before that. Though honestly they were already in full counter attack mode before then, but given MacArthur's zeal they were correct to be afraid of the US pushing into their borders. MacArthur was a fantastic general, but he underestimated the Chinese response for sure.

There was no North/South at that point, Korea was trying to reclaim territory lost after WW2 (now AKA south Korea), because Korea was friends with China/USSR though the USA stepped in to screw things up resulting in a 50+ year stalemate that has resulted in the north looking like it does today. Had that not happened then Korea would be unified and look entirely like the south today as without fear of more US aggression as a reason to support the communist dictatorship it would have collapsed decades ago (see China for an example).

This is some serious garbage. The entirety of the Korean peninsula was an occupied territory of Japan during and before WW2, they didn't 'lose' territory in the war. US and Soviet forces came in to clear out the remaining Japanese, and both sides tried to set up their preferred style of government in the areas they controlled. And we can clearly see whose experiment came out on top. Talk to some Koreans that actually lived through it before you spout this nonsense.

[caervek]

This is some serious garbage. The entirety of the Korean peninsula was an occupied territory of Japan during and before WW2, they didn't 'lose' territory in the war. US and Soviet forces came in to clear out the remaining Japanese, and both sides tried to set up their preferred style of government in the areas they controlled.

Your claims are contradictory, if Korea didn't lose any territory then how did the US set up a puppet territory in the south? The attempt to partition Korea was the reason war broke out and the reason the north is so rubbish today. If the US hadn't decided to have a proxy war in Korea then the communist regime would have fallen decades ago (like Russia/China) and Korea would be much better off and friends with the west. The only thing keeping the dictatorship in power is the fear that if Korea becomes weak[er] then the US soldiers who raped/murdered their way across the peninsula will one day return.

[downnola]

Your claims are contradictory, if Korea didn't lose any territory then how did the US set up a puppet territory in the south? The attempt to partition Korea was the reason war broke out and the reason the north is so rubbish today. If the US hadn't decided to have a proxy war in Korea then the communist regime would have fallen decades ago (like Russia/China) and Korea would be much better off and friends with the west. The only thing keeping the dictatorship in power is the fear that if Korea becomes weak[er] then the US soldiers who raped/murdered their way across the peninsula will one day return.

That "puppet territory" is the 11th largest economy in the world. Stop talking about South Korea as if they're some hellhole that would be better off in a larger communistic "Democratic People's Republic of Korea," because that's precisely what would have happened if the U.S. never got involved. There's no reason to suspect that the schoolchildren of all Korea wouldn't still march to school with pictures of the dear leader. North Koreans are brainwashed and then forced at gunpoint to cry at the sight of Kim ill-Sung. I mean, I'm just baffled that anyone has the nerve to suggest that Korea as a whole would be better off if the entire peninsula were under the most pathological dictatorship the world has ever seen. This forum never ceases to amaze me.

[xenogear3]

If I live in US, I will lose sleep.

[caervek]

That "puppet territory" is the 11th largest economy in the world.

It doesn't exist anymore, you're talking about South Korea.

Stop talking about South Korea as if they're some hellhole that would be better off in a larger communistic "Democratic People's Republic of Korea," because that's precisely what would have happened if the U.S. never got involved.

If the US hadn't gotten involved there would be no "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" today, the communist regime would have failed like they all did and Korea would mostly be like the south, instead of half of it trapped in time by a US proxy war (which is still ongoing, it didn't actually end it's just under ceasefire).

I'm just baffled that anyone has the nerve to suggest that Korea as a whole would be better off if the entire peninsula were under the most pathological dictatorship the world has ever seen. This forum never ceases to amaze me.

I haven't seen anyone suggest that.

[downnola]

If the US hadn't gotten involved there would be no "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" today, the communist regime would have failed like they all did and Korea would mostly be like the south, instead of half of it trapped in time by a US proxy war (which is still ongoing, it didn't actually end it's just under ceasefire).

And you base this theory on what exactly? You're clearly ignoring the fact that east Asia holds three of the four remaining communistic countries in the world. You're also ignoring just how brutally efficient North Korea is and has been at keeping it's population enslaved and docile. Your assertions are rooted in wishful thinking, not reality.

[Logwyn]

Soviet Union[edit]
Various sources claim between 43 and 60 pilots from the Soviet Union attained ace status in the conflict.[2] Most sources claim around 50 pilots attained ace status during the Korean War, of whom many are very controversial.[9] Research by the United States Air Force named 52 pilots who may have had legitimate claim to the title. Little is known of some of the pilots and their combined tally is incompatible with the number of aircraft the USAF claims to have lost in the war.

The Korean war was a war between the Soviets and the UN.

The UN forces were

UN Command:[a]
*United States
*United Kingdom
*Canada
*Turkey
*Australia
*Philippines
*New Zealand
*Thailand
Ethiopia
Greece
France
*Colombia
*Belgium
South Africa
*Netherlands
*Luxembourg

*Denmark
*Italy
*India
*Israel[2]
*Norway
*Sweden

The Soviets were boycotting the UN so when the vote was called to protect Korea from the Soviets, they weren't there to say "nyet", they never made that mistake again.

Yes the Russians are very much responsible for the Hellhole that is North Korean and all the pain and suffering there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

Somehow you over looked China intervening October – December 1950....With troops on the ground.

[Easo]

If the US hadn't gotten involved there would be no "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" today, the communist regime would have failed like they all did and Korea would mostly be like the south, instead of half of it trapped in time by a US proxy war (which is still ongoing, it didn't actually end it's just under ceasefire).

And you think so because why, exactly? Seeing how effective they are keeping the dissent down, I fail to see it's fall.

[Deja Thoris]

And the worst part of this bullshit?

Trump will believe them.

He'll probably bomb Hawaii to pre-emptively stop them ^_^ (Trump that is)

[caervek]

And you think so because why, exactly? Seeing how effective they are keeping the dissent down, I fail to see it's fall.

North Korea don't actually keep the dissent down and couldn't if they tried, the reason the Kims are still in power is because there isn't really much dissent due to fear. Not fear of them but fear that if Korea doesn't remain strong (kek) then the American soldiers who butchered/raped their way across the peninsula 65 years ago will return (not the same soldiers obviously).

[Pony Soldier]

Someone really needs to place a nice .50 cal. bullet in his skull and shut him up for good.

[Karadros]

North Korea says US is now in Missile range!

North Korea says a lot of things.