Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation

[Shadowferal]

It'd be kinda fucked up if he bailed and went to Russia, leaving everyone behind.

[Thepersona]

I can't agree more. They knew. They knew before anyone else did and they covered it up for political advantage and they've been running sham investigations to keep covering it up.

The party has been showing its moral decay for years now but I didn't think it went this far. They deserve to be burned down. Hopefully something new and better without that stench of rot can arise to take its place. Its better for both the left and right if that happens.

The question is..m why the fuck they were so short sighted? They knew, and went with it anyway? How stupid can the be?

[alexw]

You guys are funny. Nothing will happen.

Yeah that's why the house majority leader, a Trump confidant, is on tape saying before the election that he believes Trump is on Putin's payroll, and Paul Ryan then swears all the republicans in the meeting to secrecy.

That's absolutely normal isn't it?

[Truhan]

For the people that asked about special prosecutor vs special counsel, here's the difference. In summation, the old law created to fight Watergate made a special prosecutor/independent counsel that had to answer to a three judge panel outside of the DOJ to prevent shit like Nixon firing AGs until he finds someone to fire the special counsel. The special counsel still answers to and can be fired by the AG and DAG. Dems joined Rs in letting the law expire when the Lewinski scandal broke and they got a taste of the medicine they put down Nixon's throat. So, there you go. Special prosecutor =/= special counsel and Mueller's boss's boss is still Jeff Sessions.

[Kiri]

Ohey, the Russia thing just got a special counsel.

[Gref]

Is the man any good?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mey-flynn-live

[Dextroden]

well.. duh, it is.

I thought that was stupid. Hence why it was stupid to call people libtard cucks without a thought.

[Thepersona]

Yeah that's why the house majority leader, a Trump confidant, is on tape saying before the election that he believes Trump is on Putin's payroll, and Paul Ryan then swears all the republicans in the meeting to secrecy.

That's absolutely normal isn't it?

Wha... wait. This shit came out today? If true... tjis isnt like the case of a conspiracy? (Not conspiracy theory but the legal term of conspiracy)

[wowaccounttom]

i just like to wake up every morning and watch my favorite irl comedy show

trump has not disappointed ....

and who could have seen that one coming... the guy that got fired is now going to wtfpwn him...


trump-- the saga continues

[Deleted]

For the people that asked about special prosecutor vs special counsel, here's the difference. In summation, the old law created to fight Watergate made a special prosecutor/independent counsel that had to answer to a three judge panel outside of the DOJ to prevent shit like Nixon firing AGs until he finds someone to fire the special counsel. The special counsel still answers to and can be fired by the AG and DAG. Dems joined Rs in letting the law expire when the Lewinski scandal broke and they got a taste of the medicine they put down Nixon's throat. So, there you go. Special prosecutor =/= special counsel and Mueller's boss's boss is still Jeff Sessions.

Ah thanks for clearing that one up.

[cubby]

For the people that asked about special prosecutor vs special counsel, here's the difference. In summation, the old law created to fight Watergate made a special prosecutor/independent counsel that had to answer to a three judge panel outside of the DOJ to prevent shit like Nixon firing AGs until he finds someone to fire the special counsel. The special counsel still answers to and can be fired by the AG and DAG. Dems joined Rs in letting the law expire when the Lewinski scandal broke and they got a taste of the medicine they put down Nixon's throat. So, there you go. Special prosecutor =/= special counsel and Mueller's boss's boss is still Jeff Sessions.

Great summary - I wasn't certain of the situation. Thanks for that.

[Skroe]

I can't agree more. They knew. They knew before anyone else did and they covered it up for political advantage and they've been running sham investigations to keep covering it up.

The party has been showing its moral decay for years now but I didn't think it went this far. They deserve to be burned down. Hopefully something new and better without that stench of rot can arise to take its place. Its better for both the left and right if that happens.

I don't think anyone did.

The Republicans covering for the Russians? Go back in time 5 years and tell me that and I think most people would have laughed at you.

You know where I think this started? Reince Preibus' 2012 election post mortem, that basically said, the Republican Party needed to reach out to Latinos, Minorities, the educated and the young and modernize. It pretty much nailed it And what happened? Litterally the itemized exact opposite of the post mortem. It was very clear that the party, in a choice between modernization and holding on to a waning power base, chose the former.

They became desperate, and compromised themselves.

[PACOX]

For the people that asked about special prosecutor vs special counsel, here's the difference. In summation, the old law created to fight Watergate made a special prosecutor/independent counsel that had to answer to a three judge panel outside of the DOJ to prevent shit like Nixon firing AGs until he finds someone to fire the special counsel. The special counsel still answers to and can be fired by the AG and DAG. Dems joined Rs in letting the law expire when the Lewinski scandal broke and they got a taste of the medicine they put down Nixon's throat. So, there you go. Special prosecutor =/= special counsel and Mueller's boss's boss is still Jeff Sessions.

If Sessions wants to throw himself under the bus then thats fine by me.

[McFuu]

That is not a "definite yes", remember that Clinton was also impeached and finished his two terms in office.

I'd be surprised if Pence knew, he strikes me as a bit of a Boy Scout. But you may be right.

Well yes, you are completely correct. Impeachment doesn't mean removal from office, it's easy to overlook that.
Still Clinton's lying under oath about getting some in the Oval Office; versus the realization that Trump's campaign, and well it would have to include Trump as well worked with the "Russians" to get elected for whatever benefit or dealing that means are hugely different. Not to mention Trump just wants to throw more ammo for further impeachment procedings, recording conversations, willfully trying to influence on-going investigations (telling Comey to stop investigating Flynn, not firing Comey, that guy needed to be fired), to whatever unprofessional, unpresidential action he takes tomorrow or on twitter.

If impeachment happens, Trump is done. It's not like there are positives to his Presidential resume that would keep him around. This isn't Slick Willy at the end of two terms after all he did for the country.

[lockedout]

Yeah I believed in Santa Claus once too.

You're still losing by the way lockedout. We're going to take your President from you.

Losing? He's everyone's president, like it or not. I still remember your "Trump will never win prediction."

[Etselion]

[Deleted]

To come back to Flynn.

@Etselion stop stealing my glory, my picture is bigger D:<

[alexw]

Wha... wait. This shit came out today? If true... tjis isnt like the case of a conspiracy? (Not conspiracy theory but the legal term of conspiracy)

Yes.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...63759735013376

Strangely enough Louise Mensch (who comes across as batshit crazy) has been saying something along these lines. Her blog is insane with some of the allegations its made but another one seems to have just come true. This is what she said about Paul Ryan

https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/11/...e-against-gop/

On Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House, normally third in the line of succession, I can report as fact that sources say that Ryan has been legally intercepted, and is on tape, admitting that he knew Russian money was being laundered into the Republican party. Without co-operation pending resignation Ryan may find himself swept up into a RICO prosecution involving the apparatus of the Republican party who accepted laundered Russian money.

Note that if Putin is paying Trump then some of those funds probably flowed into his campaign. Ergo Russian money was financing the GOP.

[Truhan]

If Sessions wants to throw himself under the bus then thats fine by me.

It's more likely he would be forced to resign, much like Nixon's AG did, if it actually came to that. There would be absolutely nothing illegal about firing people until the counsel gets fired, just like how Congress could immediately impeach President Trump for it. I actually like the old rules quite a bit, judges with little to no political connections would be better oversight than a partisan Congress (where the party in power would drag feet on investigating a president in their party or witch hunt a president outside their party) and infinitely better than answering to the executive branch the counsel is supposed to investigate. Congress is also far more partisan today than it was in the Nixon era, so I think it was a mistake to let the law expire.

That said, Mueller has my utmost respect. If he says that his investigation turns up nothing on Trump or his campaign, I'm going to believe him unless some major leaks come out that contradict it.

[McFuu]

Yes.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...63759735013376

Strangely enough Louise Mensch (who comes across as batshit crazy) has been saying something along these lines. Her blog is insane with some of the allegations its made but another one seems to have just come true. This is what she said about Paul Ryan



Note that if Putin is paying Trump then some of those funds probably flowed into his campaign. Ergo Russian money was financing the GOP.

I hope all of this is true, we would get General Mattis as President. He is the perfect pick because he doesn't want to be President. Why would anyone want such a shitty job with so much responsibility and crap pay?