Theresa May says the internet must now be regulated following London Bridge terror

[Sky High]

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pfffFFFFT that is funny given how nonchalant they were in having the GLA be in the first generals game (also #FuckEA, you bastards).

[Aeula]

Disgusting.

I was almost convinced to vote Tory until they released their manifesto, now they can fuck right off. I'm not about to vote some totalitarian dictator who has an unhealthy obsession with controlling the internet into power. This is Britain, not China.

Terrorism is just an excuse, she doesn't really give a fuck about it. She's just using it to get ignorant, scared plebs to support her. Labour doesn't seem to oppose this particular suggestion either, so I guess we're fucked no matter the outcome of the election.

I need off this sinking rock.

[Trassk]

I was almost convinced to vote Tory until they released their manifesto, now they can fuck right off. I'm not about to vote some totalitarian dictator who has an unhealthy obsession with controlling the internet into power. This is Britain, not China.

Terrorism is just an excuse, she doesn't really give a fuck about it. She's just using it to get ignorant, scared plebs to support her. Labour doesn't seem to oppose this particular suggestion either, so I guess we're fucked no matter the outcome of the election..

Sad part for me was trying to explain this to my older brother and mother about the crocked nature of May's plan, and he just agreed with it saying he'd sooner have the internet policed to stop terrorists and to protect his kids from seeing things online..

I just wanted to punch him that day.

[Deleted]

Hey, you know Tories.

The only real sex is between a man and a pig's head. Anything else is a disgrace.

[Aeula]

Sad part for me was trying to explain this to my older brother and mother about the crocked nature of May's plan, and he just agreed with it saying he'd sooner have the internet policed to stop terrorists and to protect his kids from seeing things online..

I just wanted to punch him that day.

Ignorance abounds sadly, had the same conversation with my parents. The fact is that if muslims are going on the internet looking for radical content, they're already radicalised.

The real issue isn't the internet, it's the extremist Mosques, Schools and their own damn family and friends that are radicalising them.

But people are so damn desperate for a false sense of security they'll sacrifice any freedom for it.

Edit: And yeah, the video pretty much represents my thoughts too.

[Trassk]

Ignorance abounds sadly, had the same conversation with my parents. The fact is that if muslims are going on the internet looking for radical content, they're already radicalised.

The real issue isn't the internet, it's the extremist Mosques, Schools and their own damn family and friends that are radicalising them.

But people are so damn desperate for a false sense of security they'll sacrifice any freedom for it.

yep. The root causes of radicalization in countries like these don't come from open sources. May doesn't understand jack shit about the nature of the internet in once you get past the surface web what people find there and how these things really form.

So while she hits against her own people and inconveniencing them, the actual cause of attacks like these will carry on unchanged.

[Mormolyce]

Conservatives, amirite?

The Prime Minister said introducing new rules for cyberspace would “deprive the extremists of their safe spaces online” and that technology firms were not currently doing enough.

Nyah hahaha.

[fengosa]

How about instead of policing the internet, you police your immigration policies?

Not sure about this case but the Manchester bomber was a London citizen. Changing immigration policies wouldn't have changed the problem.

[Kraenen]

How about regulating their immigration for once?

[announced]

so pornography caused that van to run over people and another man to stab several individuals?... *shakes fist at pornography*

[fengosa]

Or you know they could deport those fuckers instead of doing nothing for the sake of political correctness when 90% of the time these people are already under surveillance before they act out.

Trump tried this. It was unconstititional.

[Macaquerie]

I love how everyone is all in favor of government surveillance and censorship unless it affects something they use. I mean, obviously you need 24/7 monitoring of all Muslims just to be on the safe side, but the minute you try to restrict pornography, well that's just beyond the pale.

[Adam Jensen]

More useless actions. Conservatives in name only, spineless worms unwilling to take on the responsability of solving the real problems. Lady Thatcher had more balls than the entire political class of today combined.

The problem is not the internet. The problem are the mosques.

I was with you until the end.

The mosques are fine. The guy who bombed the Ariane Grande concert was turned in by his own mosque and yet the authorities did nothing (probably didn't have enough evidence to act on.)

The problem isn't mosques and it isn't religion. It's extremist ideology. And censoring the internet is not going to help that issue either.

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The reasonable part is forcing internet providers to participate when there is "terrorism planning" which directly implies an attack or violence.

The part they got wrong was generally referencing ideology. If the internet user isn't planning violent crimes then there is no threat. And no reason to add regulation.

Did I just agree with PrimaryColor on something?

*Checks sky*

Huh, still blue. Well. That's interesting.

[PosPosPos]

It's really ironic to watch conservatives and bible thumpers let their own fascist authoritarianism bite them back in the butt. Now they can't access the pornography that they use to lambaste others about.

[kail]

I love how everyone is all in favor of government surveillance and censorship unless it affects something they use. I mean, obviously you need 24/7 monitoring of all Muslims just to be on the safe side, but the minute you try to restrict pornography, well that's just beyond the pale.

Yea, that's how self-interests works.

[Huehuecoyotl]

The internet had a vote. They decided that Theresa May needs regulating.

Seriously, I don't think it is a coincidence that in this election the spaces she is talking about are currently pretty much the only place where you can find details of the lies and spin that the Tories and MSM are propagating every day. And if she were allowed to do this (assuming she could, which we know she basically can't) you can bet such legislation would be used to close down left leaning blogs and news sites, especially during elections.

They hate not having total control of the narrative, because the internet allows for the dissemination of information by means other than papers owned by billionaires.

[Acidbaron]

I was with you until the end.

The mosques are fine. The guy who bombed the Ariane Grande concert was turned in by his own mosque and yet the authorities did nothing (probably didn't have enough evidence to act on.)

The problem isn't mosques and it isn't religion. It's extremist ideology. And censoring the internet is not going to help that issue either.

Not all mosques have moderate preachers, a lot of imam's are people that get schooled in places like Saudi Arabia. There's no Muslim authority in most countries that control the narrative of what is said and if there is it never is done officially to the point anyone or group can be held accountable.

A lot of mosques are funded by Saudi Arabia, i know our biggest mosque in Belgium is when confronted about a lot of things the people in charge acted clueless and some of them eventually even left the country just to be replaced by another.

Places of worship means a lot of people get together while radicalization may not happen directly it is obvious people recruit from those circles and isolate it, if in some places they cannot even declare what actually is said that is a problem, not a problem due to intend to spread hate or harm but a problem due to pure neglect what makes them in my eyes also a guilty party. It is said many parents who see their kids radicalize don't have a place to go to now after more terrorists attacks you see groups popping up from within the community however too little is done by those in charge and often those in charge have no time for said parents, such people should be questioned, held accountable and removed. Which is why more nations should start to enforce migration bans especially on said spiritual leaders from outside of Europe coming here, Turkey is a different story since the Islam practiced there is a whole lot more moderate but other nations the emirates especially should not be allowed to send any spiritual leader or be allowed to support any prayer house or person financially.

That's how you start tackling this issue, i say this because now that we put our scope on the Muslim community we are noticing a whole lot of things that simply are wrong. There's at least one debate per month that is troublesome and as long the heads of said communities are unwilling to accept there are more than a few problems things won't improve and that should simply not be tolerated, we also didn't tolerate Christianity interfering with our laws and this is the same thing.

So long we do not have a western version of Islam, we'll continue to have issues, while not meaning it all leads to radicalization, it does mean you have values that belong in the emirates being taken over here and practiced as the norm.

So no it's not that simple as saying "mosque's are not the problem" and doing so is part of the problem why we can't have a proper debate on this it's either all good or all bad and that's simply false, we need to be able to look at the wound and pour salt in it, not to provoke but to pinpoint the issues and deal with them.

[Noradin]

It's odd that they'd include pornography in there.

How so?
This is just a pretext they are using to give themselves the ability to spy on and control their own people.
It is disgusting how they are abusing the misfortune of others to further their own agenda.

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IShe will fucking lose this election because of this ...

That would be what she deserves for pulling things like this.

[Ryme]

Oh fuck off, Theresa. All this hurts is public entities at best, can someone please explain to the UK political parties how trivial it is to set up a private network? At worst, well, it's a spying mandate isn't it, let your mind run with that.

[ranzino]

Not sure about this case but the Manchester bomber was a London citizen. Changing immigration policies wouldn't have changed the problem.

Nobody and nothing out of blue sky commanded UK to bestow british citizenship upon him. it was their own idea to naturalize everybody and their grandma.