What is fake news? - PragerU

[Felya]

Fake news is everything that criticizes Donald Trump.

If you ask Donald Trump, that is.

That's the catch 22 this video provides as a conclusion. The view of anything as biased depends on the reader, more than it does the writer. If someone writes that US pulled out of Paris accord... what information would need to be omitted to make it fair and balanced? Would saying it wasn't binding be biased news, because it makes Trump look bad?

That's the thing, as the OP and those supporting it keep pointing out. The bias is implied by the general consensus of the media. It's not just what they say, but how many are saying it. Think about what that means in general. If you see 10 doctors and 1 tells you that you have a tumor, are the 9 doctors biased? Is one of the nine the leader and the other eight sheep? Is the one doctor an independent thinker? If someone answers 'yes' to any of those 3 questions, it's not only misunderstanding what bias is, but also conflating the meaning of consensus with bias.

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Jon Oliver touched on what I was saying earlier. I only called his 10:1 ratio for left wing and right wing a misrepresentation, but it's a downright lie that focuses on people not understanding how local news works:

https://youtu.be/GvtNyOzGogc

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinc...roadcast_Group

Headquartered in Hunt Valley, Maryland, the company is the second-largest television station operator in the United States (behind Nexstar Media Group) by number of stations, and largest by total coverage; owning and/or operating a total of 173 stations across the country (233 after all currently proposed sales are approved) in over 100 markets (covering 40% of American households), many of which are located in the South and Midwest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/b...ive-media.html

Since November 2015, Sinclair has ordered its stations to run a daily segment from a “Terrorism Alert Desk” with updates on terrorism-related news around the world. During the election campaign last year, it sent out a package that suggested in part that voters should not support Hillary Clinton because the Democratic Party was historically pro-slavery. More recently, Sinclair asked stations to run a short segment in which Scott Livingston, the company’s vice president for news, accused the national news media of publishing “fake news stories.”

Notice the NBC logo on their broadcast. 10:1 liberal, ey?

[Deianeira]

Ok... None of that changes what he said and what seems like your inability to acknowledge left wing bias.

Im amazed about the whining about bias, bias in and of itself is not bad. It is the bias that is grounded on wrong information or plain lies and misinformation that is bad. If a newsoutlet reports news that is factually correct and they happen to promote Said news or whatever, it seems to me that so many people dismiss it just because they dont agree or believe it. Cuz you Know "they are biased"

[Felya]

Im amazed about the whining about bias, bias in and of itself is not bad. It is the bias that is grounded on wrong information or plain lies and misinformation that is bad. If a newsoutlet reports news that is factually correct and they happen to promote Said news or whatever, it seems to me that so many people dismiss it just because they dont agree or believe it. Cuz you Know "they are biased"

Sorry, I've been ranting on the subject and don't mean to overwhelm out of nowhere. Sorry, don't let this discourage you from posting more.

In that video, the most glaring 'fake news' disguised as bias was the left to right media split. Meaning that his whole premise is not just based on bias misrepresentation, but an actual lie. It claims that NBC, CBS and ABC are left wing, because their viewership is 10:1 larger than Fox. Here is why that's a lie:

- Sinclair broadcasting owns 40% of all local networks that are affiliated with NBC, CBS and ABC.
- Sinclair broadcasting, not the big three networks, have the largest viewership in the country.
- Sinclair broadcasting forces their networks to air attack adds on DNC as news. Has a terrorist alert segment that is forced, which included talking about burkas on the beach as an alert.

That's ignoring that the ratio came from a republican congressman, who never showed the methodology of that ratio. What we end up is with a video explicitly lying, while arguing that 'fake news' is bias. No bud, fake news is that whole video, that is trying to convince us that lying, is a mater of bias.

[Deianeira]

Sorry, I've been ranting on the subject and don't mean to overwhelm out of nowhere. Sorry, don't let this discourage you from posting more.

In that video, the most glaring 'fake news' disguised as bias was the left to right media split. Meaning that his whole premise is not just based on bias misrepresentation, but an actual lie. It claims that NBC, CBS and ABC are left wing, because their viewership is 10:1 larger than Fox. Here is why that's a lie:

- Sinclair broadcasting owns 40% of all local networks that are affiliated with NBC, CBS and ABC.
- Sinclair broadcasting, not the big three networks, have the largest viewership in the country.
- Sinclair broadcasting forces their networks to air attack adds on DNC as news. Has a terrorist alert segment that is forced, which included talking about burkas on the beach as an alert.

That's ignoring that the ratio came from a republican congressman, who never showed the methodology of that ratio. What we end up is with a video explicitly lying, while arguing that 'fake news' is bias. No bud, fake news is that whole video, that is trying to convince us that lying, is a mater of bias.

No worries , thing is im of the opinion that there is no such thing as completely "biasfree" news reporting. An d it dont have to be as long as the newsoutlets are clear what their biases are. I mean the reason news has become this way is because apparently that is what people want since they are watching it.

"Edit" btw i agree that the video is pretty much as "fakenews" as it gets