Japan has a labor crisis that refugees could fix, if the government would let them

[Sykol]

I'd like to see a source on that.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3119278/ha...ater-liberals/

[Wilian]

...That seems like an interesting statement. Would love to see some citations for this.

https://www.google.fi/?gws_rd=ssl#q=japan+birth+rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility

then it's time to automate.

it's time to stop with this crap. automate and make life better for your own people instead of bringing in 3rd worlders that generally do nothing but make things worse.

the syrian refugees, ok, maybe some of them. but not to japan, japan doesn't need that burden. but the others, no, they do nothing but increase crime and be a general pain for everyone.

Automation doesn't help when your people are literally dying out of not breeding enough.

No, they haven't.

Yes they have and long ago now. That is why there is a crisis in the first place.

[Tennis]

My wife works. Are you saying women aren't equal to men?

Most women take significant time off work for maternity leave and to care for young children. This is common sense and the decent thing to do.

[Freighter]

Yes they have and long ago now. That is why there is a crisis in the first place.

No, if they've passed the point of no return it means there will be no japanese soon. That's not the case.

[ImpTaimer]

Sure. Then make the argument that these particular aspects of these cultures are detrimental. What you're saying here has nothing to do with my argument and betrays your illogical preconceptions of me.

Particular aspects? Deflection much?

You insinuated that a dominant culture should overtake another that refuses to compete with it. Islam a warring/conquering ideology, not a moral compass.

Step off that pedestal.

[Uselessrouge]

smart move , robots > refugees

[Elegiac]

Conquest is why islam is incompatible with many countries, Islam has a heavy background in conquest and making people submit to it.

This is true of western civilization as well, but that isn't particularly relevant.

We are not talking about military conquest, we are talking about cultural conflict. There is actually a difference if you study the humanities as opposed to getting your entire understanding of human society from cable news.

[Freighter]

Sure. Then make the argument that these particular aspects of these cultures are detrimental. What you're saying here has nothing to do with my argument and betrays your illogical preconceptions of me.

Unless you have an authoritarian government to assert control and punish those who go against them then Islam has a lot of advantage against other ideas/cultures due to conquest.

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This is true of western civilization as well, but that isn't particularly relevant.

We are not talking about military conquest, we are talking about cultural conflict. There is actually a difference if you study the humanities as opposed to getting your entire understanding of human society from cable news.

Cultural conquest does not need military conquest. You just need enough people to have influence. Islam is effective at tethering its believers to Islam, they don't abandon it easily.

[Elegiac]

Unless you have an authoritarian government to assert control and punish those who go against them then Islam has a lot of advantage against other ideas/cultures due to conquest.

Because Western civilization has never engaged in conquest or forced acculturation, right.

[Sykol]

Most women take significant time off work for maternity leave and to care for young children. This is common sense and the decent thing to do.

The first year within a new country? That's promising.

[kail]

Japans not suicidal like France, Canada, Germany and Sweden

I thoughtt Japans suicide rates were rather high.

OT: The concept of taking in refugees is not intended to fix labor issues. Countries take in refugees for humanitarian reasons and if they have the means in doing so.

[Dezerte]

On the positive side they are pushing hard for automation technology, which might lead us to a better society for all where dreary work is done by automation.

[Draco-Onis]

No, if they've passed the point of no return it means there will be no japanese soon. That's not the case.

Correct but first their economy will collapse under the weight of having no young people to support their safety net then maybe they will change their worst policies and cultural traditions that are killing the family unit.

[Elegiac]

Cultural conquest does not need military conquest. You just need enough people to have influence.

And you're dodging the question, but that's to be expected.

Why is it that Islam is apparently so much better at cultural conquest than Western civilization. What is it about Islamic culture that is so attractive to people, whereas Western culture needs to be kept behind walls and isolated in order to survive.

[Freighter]

Because Western civilization has never engaged in conquest or forced acculturation, right.

I don't know what this has to do with what I said. Western civilization does not do conquest nowadays, it's not particularly authoritarian but more live and let live. Islam is not.

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And you're dodging the question, but that's to be expected.

Why is it that Islam is apparently so much better at cultural conquest than Western civilization. What is it about Islamic culture that is so attractive to people, whereas Western culture needs to be kept behind walls and isolated in order to survive.

It isn't attractive to outsiders but to those who are born and brought up in it, they tether them pretty effectively to the ideology.

[Very Tired]

So actually they wouldn't help japans labor crisis since they can't work.

Dang... that was a quick checkmate.

Why is this thread still alive?

[Elegiac]

I don't know what this has to do with what I said. Western civilization does not do conquest nowadays it's not particularly authoritarian but more live and let live. Islam is not.

Okay, so your argument is basically that Western culture has no ability to export itself anymore.

In which case; why is it worth protecting. If it is not an attractive enough culture to survive on its own merits, then what is the point.

[Tennis]

The first year within a new country? That's promising.

Most of Canada is fine with this seeing as we voted in a government who is in favour of us taking in our fair share. Get on board.

[Elegiac]

It isn't attractive to outsiders but to those who are born and brought up in it, they tether them pretty effectively to the ideology.

If it's not attractive to outsiders then there is absolutely no risk of 'cultural suicide' by letting Muslim immigrants into Western countries.

[Freighter]

Okay, so your argument is basically that Western culture has no ability to export itself anymore.

In which case; why is it worth protecting. If it is not an attractive enough culture to survive on its own merits, then what is the point.

No, it isn't. It's that islam is stronger in cultural influence due to the amount of believers and how strongly they believe, to those who are born within it.