Why are these anarchy movements popping up?

[Elba]

People are realizing that capitalism is a crock of shit that will kill us all

[Noxx79]

Adolescent fantasies of being able to live "without your RULES, MAN!"

[SupBrah]

Young upper middle class people ,whom are mostly white, that are way too priviledged and bored to have actual problems.

Pretty much this.


Also, ever notice how the most vocal people in BLM and similar rallies tend to be clearly mixed and even border-line white (Even Shaun King, one of the most vocal members of BLM, is believed to actually be white, and don't forget Rachel Dolezal ). Just look at the BLM protesters that interrupted Bernie Sanders not too long ago. Like... You can just tell they've probably never felt struggle or oppression.

Hell, even the actual black kids speaking at these rallies are often coming from a privileged home. Remember Johnathan Butler at Mizzou? He came from a multi-million dollar household!


Ever wonder why that kid from the ghetto who kept their nose clean and worked hard to land scholarships, or that actual migrant who busted their ass to get a student-visa to America from a war-torn country, almost never seems to be at these events? Hmm... Maybe because he/she is GLAD to be in a country where kids can be raised so sheltered and privileged that they have literally nothing else to complain about besides social issues or the capitalist system that allowed them to live such a privileged lifestyle .

[pathora44]

I do actually agree with that. I would like to see the removal of the Federal Government.

I'm quite alone on this, but I would like to see the "United States" disbanded. I feel each state should be it's own country.

Well the vast majority of the states would immediately go bankrupt and go under if that happened. Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Kansas, etc... since most of these states actually rely on federal money to help keep them floating. States like California, Texas, New York would do fine but the majority of the flyover states and the south would fold in no time if the U.S. disbanded.

[zebreck]

This. All these naysayers who keep pointing at antifa and spoiled college kids. I get it, there are those retards, but there's also retarded An-Caps. The bottom line is the world we grew up in (speaking of those in the first world nations) is dead and gone, and the rich killed it. Our futures are stolen, the "boot straps" are gone, the ladders to advance in society are gone. It's. All. Gone. All of it was stolen by people who own 40% of the world's wealth, just so they could have a few more billion dollars.

You want to know where the "fuck the system" mentality comes from? It's that. It's the corruption that's gone rampant enough that politicians bribe that they get more donors for their political party (see: United States politicians, such as SHillary Clinton's latest statements about said fundraising). Donors, fundraising; it's all just legalized bribes. The government's not ran by elected politicians, it's ran by chosen sellouts who will do the bidding of their masters.

45 posts in and somehow precisely 1 person actually gets it. I'm not an anarchist, because it's a fucking stupid idea, but I get the appeal. Everyone my age is fucked and there's no cavalry coming for my generation. The global warming clock is ticking and the rich already ate all the horses. Under those conditions, when your life is going to be shit no matter what you do, burning everything down and starting over seems like a pretty good plan. It's not, of course, as anyone who's paid attention to Syria can tell you, but it sure seems that way. Fix to total collapse of economic opportunity in western capitalists systems and you unmake all of these movements.

[Kathandira]

Well the vast majority of the states would immediately go bankrupt and go under if that happened. Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Kansas, etc... since most of these states actually rely on federal money to help keep them floating. States like California, Texas, New York would do fine but the majority of the flyover states and the south would fold in no time if the U.S. disbanded.

Good point. Perhaps divide the nation up into smaller segments? Quadrants or more?

[Glorious Leader]

People already have the freedom to tell their bosses to go fuck themselves. Similarly, their bosses have the freedom to say "you're fired, gtfo."

What's that, you say, the system is not fair and your boss should give you a paycheck anyway? There's your problem.

The relationship between these parties is necesarilly a question of dominance and power. To suggest that labor is free to choose is misleading. In point of fact when labor has a highee degree of freedom the class relations become strained and you get a whole different set of socio economic phenomenon.

Are you free to starve and die in the streets? I mean i guess ask yourself about the quality of choice thats being presented to you. Genuine anarchists recognize that not all choices are decent ones. Since the quality of choice is artificially imposed in this case it is debatable to argue how free any given individual is.

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Beauty of capitalism: Nothing prevents them from doing so. They just have to accept the consequences. You simply can't have it both ways - enjoying the benefits of capitalism but then avoiding it's downsides is basically just leeching...

What are the benefits? In the real world their are of course many impediments. Like not starving...

[Deleted]

What are the benefits? In the real world their are of course many impediments. Like not starving...

Are you seriously asking what are the benefits of capitalism? As in: What's better than communism? I'm sure there are many people from former socialist/communist countries on this forum that can tell you those benefits.

[Vathoren]

This. All these naysayers who keep pointing at antifa and spoiled college kids. I get it, there are those retards, but there's also retarded An-Caps. The bottom line is the world we grew up in (speaking of those in the first world nations) is dead and gone, and the rich killed it. Our futures are stolen, the "boot straps" are gone, the ladders to advance in society are gone. It's. All. Gone. All of it was stolen by people who own 40% of the world's wealth, just so they could have a few more billion dollars.

You want to know where the "fuck the system" mentality comes from? It's that. It's the corruption that's gone rampant enough that politicians bribe that they get more donors for their political party (see: United States politicians, such as SHillary Clinton's latest statements about said fundraising). Donors, fundraising; it's all just legalized bribes. The government's not ran by elected politicians, it's ran by chosen sellouts who will do the bidding of their masters.

This. So much fucking this.

[kidstechno]

This. All these naysayers who keep pointing at antifa and spoiled college kids. I get it, there are those retards, but there's also retarded An-Caps. The bottom line is the world we grew up in (speaking of those in the first world nations) is dead and gone, and the rich killed it. Our futures are stolen, the "boot straps" are gone, the ladders to advance in society are gone. It's. All. Gone. All of it was stolen by people who own 40% of the world's wealth, just so they could have a few more billion dollars.

You want to know where the "fuck the system" mentality comes from? It's that. It's the corruption that's gone rampant enough that politicians bribe that they get more donors for their political party (see: United States politicians, such as SHillary Clinton's latest statements about said fundraising). Donors, fundraising; it's all just legalized bribes. The government's not ran by elected politicians, it's ran by chosen sellouts who will do the bidding of their masters.

This pretty much nails it.
U.S. has no universal health care and currently have a party wanting to destroy the health insurance markets that grossly favor people with money vs. poor people, disadvantaged kids, disabled persons, etc
We imprison more people than any other country, especially minorities and people of color. Some of these prisons are for-profit which feed directly into imprisoning more people over rehabilitation.
Politicians literally copy/paste laws from companies to introduce and pass, no longer listening to their bosses - their constituents
Declining education for years due to defunding of public education, making college so expensive that when you get out you're thousands of dollars in debt, no focus on job training or transitioning people at later stages in life or for dying industries due to automation or other factors
CEO pay has risen over 1000% while wages have stagnated for lower and middle class workers, making it harder for people to advance up the social ladder

I could go on, but there are deep deep problems in America that need to be addressed or it'll only get worse going forward.

[Glorious Leader]

Are you seriously asking what are the benefits of capitalism? As in: What's better than communism? I'm sure there are many people from former socialist/communist countries on this forum that can tell you those benefits.

Asking for the benefits of capitalism is not the same question aw whats better than communism and im not sure why you would confuse the two or even bring up communism. Unless of course youre unwillomg or unable to.discuss the merits of capitialism on its owm terms.

[Mittens]

What are the benefits? In the real world their are of course many impediments. Like not starving...

Its the best system that has created vasts amount of wealth and lifted an unprecedent amount of people out of poverty. And that is just citing marx.

[Deleted]

Personally, I suspect that these movements come about because of the concept of privilege.
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I think that these kids have the concept of privilege shoved down their throats and it just makes them feel guilty as hell.

Oh please. These people are simply worthless, egoistic pieces of shit who feel no guilt for anything.

These Communist ideologies prey on these sorts of people. They say, "Here, you can have an identity as part of the group and you can give back a bit of that privilege that keeps you from sleeping at night."

Nah. Extreme narcissism is one of the core tenets of these anarchist-minded dipshits. They want to feel special but lack the brains and morals to be anything else that worthless human waste, and then fall for any bullshit that says "doing as Marx/Mao/Lenin say makes you smart and better than all other people".

Summa summarum: they are nothing but garbage.

Basically it's once again a variation of The Emperor's New Clothes. Conmen say that only idiots can't see the fabric they weave, and everyone, the emperor included, joins the choir praising how great and beautiful the fabric is because they are afraid of being revealed as idiots. No one even thinks about it being an obvious fraud.

[Elegiac]

Same reason any sort of political or social upheaval occurs. People do not feel they have a stake in society or an investment in its continued functioning; our era has become one dominated by large corporations wherein most political and economic power is controlled by an increasingly small elite who have corrupted the system into servicing their needs at everyone else's expense.

Why bother supporting a government or society that doesn't support you?

[Deleted]

Guess people just want to burn the cars of the middle class to spite the rich.

[Deleted]

Anarchy leads to social darwinism, which leads to tyranny.

[tumppu]

People are realizing that capitalism is a crock of shit that will kill us all

I'd rather take the crock of shit over anorchowhatever, knowing that if we *actually* abolished "the Man", people would turn on eachother violently faster than during the black friday sales, or on the raft of the Medusa.

[PC2]

People are realizing that capitalism is a crock of shit that will kill us all

Except there's no data to suggest this. Most production has been private while poverty and non-age related death has been reduced.

[Deleted]

Are you seriously asking what are the benefits of capitalism? As in: What's better than communism? I'm sure there are many people from former socialist/communist countries on this forum that can tell you those benefits.

Can I ask you if you have ever read a book about communism or capitalism? Have you any reference on your education? Because what you say makes no sense. I cannot fathom the definition you have in your head but it's certainly not scientific nor has it any reliable source.

Neo-liberalism after Adam Smiths happened just as much as Communism after Marx, that is: It didn't.

[OrcsRLame]

Can I ask you if you have ever read a book about communism or capitalism? Have you any reference on your education? Because what you say makes no sense. I cannot fathom the definition you have in your head but it's certainly not scientific nor has it any reliable source.

Neo-liberalism after Adam Smiths happened just as much as Communism after Marx, that is: It didn't.

Yes yes, the not real Communism meme. Your rebuttal is a meme that anyone that doesn't live under a rock has heard 1000x before. No one finds it a compelling defense.