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    So, can we use this to seize property from suspected criminals like Donald Trump?

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    It seems like it's hard to make the argument that Sessions isn't still incredibly racist, when every directive he has issued to date has disproportionately affected a certain race.

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    They already do that... except they dont really even need to suspect you of being a criminal.
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    I'm ok with this but just so we're clear the government is stealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    So, can we use this to seize property from suspected criminals like Donald Trump?
    From what I know, yes. But they typically try to target people too poor to fight it or for amounts so low it is cheaper not to fight it.
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    I wonder if this will go for the criminals in the government too.

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    This is basically to go after the minority communities. Now they can arrest "suspected" drug dealers and seize their homes whether it's family, friends, or renters living in it. A reason they could give is "We seized these assets because we think they might be used to commit the same crime again". Family, friends, or renters are now on the street and nothing can be done about it. Rinse and repeat.

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    Actual real conservatives are going to hate this. It's a stiff government intrusion into private lives and confiscation of property even before a trial is something that everyone should oppose. That's police state stuff and is already too widespread.

    Sessions has opened a real can of worms here. Worse, he's likely to lose if and when it gets to the Supreme Court. There are some actual small-government let-the-states-decide conservatives there and it's unlikely they're going to go along with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    So, can we use this to seize property from suspected criminals like Donald Trump?
    If the RICO thing goes forth we could.
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    Without being charged or convicted? How can anyone justify this as being anything short of legalized robbery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    Without being charged or convicted? How can anyone justify this as being anything short of legalized robbery?
    So, the group that screeches
    EVERYONE NEEDS GUNS,
    is the same group that schreeches
    THE GUBBERMINT IS EBUL,
    is now pushing for the
    EBUL GUBBERMINT GONA TAKE ALL UR STUFF.

    Thanks Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    So, the group that screeches
    EVERYONE NEEDS GUNS,
    is the same group that schreeches
    THE GUBBERMINT IS EBUL,
    is now pushing for the
    EBUL GUBBERMINT GONA TAKE ALL UR STUFF.

    Thanks Obama.
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    To be fair though, I've seen pushback against this from all of the political spectrum.

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    Good. It'll pad his resume for when Trump asks him to resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    Without being charged or convicted? How can anyone justify this as being anything short of legalized robbery?
    Correction: the property taken is charged and most likely convicted, for it cannot defend itself in court. Those 1000 dollars in your pocket were guilty, believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    Correction: the property taken is charged and most likely convicted, for it cannot defend itself in court. Those 1000 dollars in your pocket were guilty, believe it or not.
    They were used in commission of a crime. Thus we can take it. You were never tried? Nor charged? Consider yourself lucky friend, now don't do something stupid like talk to a lawyer about it. We haven't charged you. Yet.
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    In Canada, we've been warned not to carry any cash on us if we're driving through the US, because highway patrols will stop cars with foreign plates, take any cash they can find, then send you on your way. To even challenge it, you have to find out when the court date is (they don't inform you, since you're not being charged with anything), and then travel back to the jurisdiction in question. Almost never worth it.

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