Originally Posted by
Greif9
Even though I disagree with almost everything you said about how to play a bear, I can see that you can do M +10 that way without being too much of a hindrance to your group if your gear is ok.
Skill floor wise, bear is probably the easiest of all the tanks by far. It is incredibly forgiving. This isn't actually a bad thing though. It allows you as someone who rerolled to it, to just pick it up and get into playing it no problem. My gripe with the changes since 7.1.5 is that they have steadily removed the skill ceiling from bears with the changes to talents and the addition of the new traits. A decently high skill ceiling is (for me) necessary to enjoy a class long term, because otherwise I feel stuck and like I can't do anything to get better anymore, even though the latter one is probably never literally true.
The design of the Monk is a lot less intuitive and Stagger is something, that just changes the way you think about taking damage. This massively raises the skill floor, because you have to be kinda used to the design before you can actually tank in difficult circumstances without being a burden on your healer. The situational nature of your defensive abilities makes you approach every fight a little bit differently and I currently enjoy that a lot. The dps rotation is a lot more rigid as you have no procs and if you just use keg smash on CD and fill the GCD's in between you are kinda/sorta fine.