Tbh as a Democrat I hope the obamacare repeal passes.

[Felya]

The fear mongering is strong

Yeah, without fear mongering, this thread would be about ACA, instead of Obamacare.

[Draco-Onis]

The fear mongering is strong

Fear? you must be mistaking the giant boner some democrats are having from seeing republicans committing political suicide for fear.

[Hobb]

Well unfortunately the senate just passed it 51-50.

Doesn't repeal it, but gives them an open slate to amend it however they want to.

[satimy]

Fear? you must be mistaking the giant boner some democrats are having from seeing republicans committing political suicide for fear.

It's almost as bad as death panels, have fun being as smart as Sarah palin

[Draco-Onis]

It's almost as bad as death panels, have fun being as smart as Sarah palin

You mean there are different people on both sides *gasp, it's almost like people are not of one mind just because they share a political party

[Elegiac]

It's almost as bad as death panels, have fun being as smart as Sarah palin

Death panels are not a thing anywhere. Higher premiums and people not being able to afford insurance due to cutbacks in the Medicaid expansion and the collapse of the individual mandate, however, are a very real thing.

[MoanaLisa]

Only 8 republican senators are up for election this midterm, so odds are against the senate switching but anything is possible.

People forget that 2010 was a bad map for Senate Democrats. Didn't help them. You only need to flip a couple of seats.

[Noxx79]

Hospitals around here had charity care, if you were poor you got treated for free.

Someone had to pay for it, and guess who did? Everyone else by higher medical costs.

Now if that money was guaranteed by the government or an insurance company...

[Grapemask]

It's good times when a senator, who had just recently received care for a serious medical condition thanks to a plan provided by the government, rolls into town to vote in favor of legislation that will enable his party to work towards taking government-assisted medical care away from people.

[Tinykong]

Oh, the irony.

John McCain, a man Trump publicly shamed, casts a crucial vote and Trump hails him as a hero.

What direction is the wind blowing today?

[Deleted]

Well unfortunately the senate just passed it 51-50.

Doesn't repeal it, but gives them an open slate to amend it however they want to.

They did it? This is truly a great day. #MAGA

[satimy]

Death panels are not a thing anywhere. Higher premiums and people not being able to afford insurance due to cutbacks in the Medicaid expansion and the collapse of the individual mandate, however, are a very real thing.

Obamacare made insurance more expensive, it just expanded the welfare state. Stop lying and pretending like you care about anything other than moving towards communism. Obamacare is a shitty pro insurance company lobbyist pro medical device company piece of trash that shouldn't be defended by anyone

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Someone had to pay for it, and guess who did? Everyone else by higher medical costs.

Now if that money was guaranteed by the government or an insurance company...

Then taxes or insurance premiums would go up instead?

[Noxx79]

Obamacare made insurance more expensive, it just expanded the welfare state. Stop lying and pretending like you care about anything other than moving towards communism. Obamacare is a shitty pro insurance company lobbyist pro medical device company piece of trash that shouldn't be defended by anyone

They can't both be communism and pro corporate. Those are mutually exclusive. Glad you just showed that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Grapemask]

Obamacare made insurance more expensive, it just expanded the welfare state. Stop lying and pretending like you care about anything other than moving towards communism. Obamacare is a shitty pro insurance company lobbyist pro medical device company piece of trash that shouldn't be defended by anyone

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Then taxes or insurance premiums would go up instead?

Obamacare isn't great, but that doesn't make this statement any less falsehood based on conservative spin.

[Elegiac]

Obamacare made insurance more expensive

No, it didn't.

it just expanded the welfare state.

Again; no, it didn't.

Stop lying and pretending like you care about anything other than moving towards communism. Obamacare is a shitty pro insurance company lobbyist pro medical device company piece of trash that shouldn't be defended by anyone.

Funny, since I'm not a communist.

ACA is crap but it's better than what came before it.

[Noxx79]

Obamacare made insurance more expensive, it just expanded the welfare state. Stop lying and pretending like you care about anything other than moving towards communism. Obamacare is a shitty pro insurance company lobbyist pro medical device company piece of trash that shouldn't be defended by anyone

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Then taxes or insurance premiums would go up instead?

Not if the cost is spread out among an entire country, instead of just those who are sick or need insurance.

You continue to prove you don't know what you're talking about.

[satimy]

They can't both be communism and pro corporate. Those are mutually exclusive. Glad you just showed that you have no idea what you are talking about.

The Medicaid expansion and changes to the private market are separate parts of the same bill. Glad you have no clue what you're talking about

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The only reason anyone defends Obamacare is because it's the only thing he got done

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Not if the cost is spread out among an entire country, instead of just those who are sick or need insurance.

You continue to prove you don't know what you're talking about.

Wait so costs going up for everyone is worse than costs going up for everyone ? You're not making sense

[Paranoid Android]

I'm with the OP and specifically have mentioned Kentucky. One of the biggest benefactors of ObamaCare have two of the worst fucking Senators in Congress. That state is stuck on stupid. I want them to be punished to the max and YES they will still vote for that "R".

[Noxx79]

The Medicaid expansion and changes to the private market are separate parts of the same bill. Glad you have no clue what you're talking about

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The only reason anyone defends Obamacare is because it's the only thing he got done

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Wait so costs going up for everyone is worse than costs going up for everyone ? You're not making sense

Would you rather costs go up by 100/1000s of dollars and hospitals close because they can't get money? Or would you rather costs go up at the rate Of inflation because the costs are spread out enough to have no effect.

Do you even know how insurance works? Because you simultaneously seemed to be pissed at communism and pissed at the way the insurance industry works.

Sounds like you don't want insurance at all, yet have to pay for care. Sounds like you want the poor to die. Sounds like you want to perpetuate white genocide..
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Keep on pretending you know what you're talking about.

[satimy]

Would you rather costs go up by 100/1000s of dollars and hospitals close because they can't get money? Or would you rather costs go up at the rate Of inflation because the costs are spread out enough to have no effect.

Do you even know how insurance works? Because you simultaneously seemed to be pissed at communism and pissed at the way the insurance industry works.

Sounds like you don't want insurance at all, yet have to pay for care. Sounds like you want the poor to die. Sounds like you want to perpetuate white genocide..
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Keep on pretending you know what you're talking about.

God you're so fucking clueless