Semi-big victory for e-cig industry

[Shadoweye]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ac367d84fc7b

The FDA is pulling back the August 2018 deadline, until 2022. I personally consider this a huge victory, for the time being, for the E-cig industry.

Hopefully, more science with come out showing these products, and devices (properly used) are a lot less dangerous than the cigarette/tobacco alternative.

[Allybeboba]

When I was in vacation earlier this year someone's e-cigarette literally exploded mere feet away from us. It frickin' nuts. I had flashbacks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KR7_xwQbYp0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pTehBeQHvHM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aft9m2uEXxE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3afTbbwUI

[Dr Assbandit]

When I was in vacation earlier this year someone's e-cigarette literally exploded mere feet away from us. It frickin' nuts. I had flashbacks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KR7_xwQbYp0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pTehBeQHvHM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aft9m2uEXxE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3afTbbwUI

It's Gods ways of telling us that vaping is an abomination unto the lord on the same level of sin as vegans and cross-fitters.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

People still smoke?

Disgusting.

[Draco-Onis]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ac367d84fc7b

The FDA is pulling back the August 2018 deadline, until 2022. I personally consider this a huge victory, for the time being, for the E-cig industry.

Hopefully, more science with come out showing these products, and devices (properly used) are a lot less dangerous than the cigarette/tobacco alternative.

I think you forget it took us decades worth of scientific data to assess how dangerous cigarettes were. There is no way yet for us to know the effects of long term E-cig use since most people are not using them to quit they are just becoming addicted to them instead.

[Allybeboba]

It's Gods ways of telling us that vaping is an abomination unto the lord on the same level of sin as vegans and cross-fitters.

That sucker went off like a rocket in his pocket.

[Acidbaron]

Not sure how this is a win for the consumer and claiming that these things are less dangerous without any actual data to support that.

[Deleted]

Nicotine still is a dangerous drug. Noone should start if he never smoked, or feel the need to try it out. It is still very unhealthy for the brain.

[Dr Assbandit]

That sucker went off like a rocket in his pocket.

Can you imagine if he was refilling gas at a station right at that moment?

[Shadoweye]

Not sure how this is a win for the consumer and claiming that these things are less dangerous without any actual data to support that.

https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/projects...rm-reduction-0

Feel free to read through the report. And the jury is still mostly out, but hindering advancement on something that has the potential to save lives, reduce medical costs, and allow people an option that is potentially, significantly less dangerous should be a goal everyone has.

[Allybeboba]

Can you imagine if he was refilling gas at a station right at that moment?

Addicts will do foolish things. I have seen people smoking while filling up at fuel station.

[Dr Assbandit]

Addicts will do foolish things. I have seen people smoking while filling up at fuel station.

That's like a Darwin award waiting to happen with potentially taking others lives with you. I've heard of firework accidents and fires started in clothing factories for less.

[Acidbaron]

https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/projects...rm-reduction-0

Feel free to read through the report. And the jury is still mostly out, but hindering advancement on something that has the potential to save lives, reduce medical costs, and allow people an option that is potentially, significantly less dangerous should be a goal everyone has.

Smoking tobacco also used to be promoted as a healthy "break" habit. The problem is we do not know what harm those chemicals do long term.

So far i know the US isn't that hard on smoking in general or tobacco warnings. These things should most definitely be seen as harmful as with all other chemicals until they can be proven to be otherwise.

[Machismo]

Smoking tobacco also used to be promoted as a healthy "break" habit. The problem is we do not know what harm those chemicals do long term.

So far i know the US isn't that hard on smoking in general or tobacco warnings. These things should most definitely be seen as harmful as with all other chemicals until they can be proven to be otherwise.

You are literally asking for people to make a determination without evidence, until evidence can be found...

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If people want to kill themselves with cigarettes, I'm fine with that. If they want to vape themselves to death, I'm also fine with that.

[unbound]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ac367d84fc7b

The FDA is pulling back the August 2018 deadline, until 2022. I personally consider this a huge victory, for the time being, for the E-cig industry.

Hopefully, more science with come out showing these products, and devices (properly used) are a lot less dangerous than the cigarette/tobacco alternative.

Sigh...less dangerous doesn't equal not dangerous.

[Acidbaron]

You are literally asking for people to make a determination without evidence, until evidence can be found...

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If people want to kill themselves with cigarettes, I'm fine with that. If they want to vape themselves to death, I'm also fine with that.

You are aware that when it comes to chemicals in products the average consumer has access to that these have to always be proven to not be harmful or at the least come with the correct warnings to be allowed in the market.

It is simply common sense.

[Machismo]

You are aware that when it comes to chemicals in products the average consumer has access to that these have to always be proven to not be harmful or at the least come with the correct warnings to be allowed in the market.

It is simply common sense.

Then you are asking for a determination to be made before evidence is actually found. That's no different than assuming guilt, and someone has to prove their innocence.

No thanks, I'll settle for facts and science.

[Thelxi]

When I was in vacation earlier this year someone's e-cigarette literally exploded mere feet away from us. It frickin' nuts. I had flashbacks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KR7_xwQbYp0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pTehBeQHvHM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aft9m2uEXxE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3afTbbwUI

The one I'm using now comes with a warning to always turn off the battery when not using it or charging it or putting it in your pocket. I won't lie this worries me.

[Allybeboba]

The one I'm using now comes with a warning to always turn off the battery when not using it or charging it or putting it in your pocket. I won't lie this worries me.

I feel really bad for laughing out load when watching that first video. I bet that guy got burned really bad.
It was spectacular though.

[Acidbaron]

Then you are asking for a determination to be made before evidence is actually found. That's no different than assuming guilt, and someone has to prove their innocence.

No thanks, I'll settle for facts and science.

This a normal procedure, do you rather have things come on the market and then to be taking off because they are harmful? Since that is what you are advocating here.

If yes that's your opinion to have, i however would like it that the government continues to demand the producer of said product to provide enough evidence that their product is not harmful to the public, but you might prefer that corporation interests are more important and that a human life is worth not that much, so that products should only be subject to such things when there is actual evidence, in this case more likely a death or a long term illness and what not.

Yes, i'm mocking you now cause really what i'm saying is the standard in the western world and acting that what i'm suggesting is strange is rather normal. And if this product is something where they don't know for certain its long term effects are harmful we know it of nicotine and that alone warrants plenty of warnings for the consumer.