Neo Nazis losing jobs after being publicly outed

[Vargarii]

Freedom of speech and restriction of employer power should mean that your employer can not intrude and control your personal life just because he fan fire you for no reason and realistically there are no other job opportunities because your country is sh*t (applies less to the most advanced countries).

It means that you can write on your facebook "I am against corrupt judges" and you will not be risking an instant firing by your corrupt boss/employer because he is the one paying for those judges to be corrupted.

It means that you can tell your boss NO when he privately asks to spend an intimate weekend with your daughter in exchange for not firing you.

It means that you can walk out on the street and legally protest against government theft and massive amounts of taxes being stolen through government-private contracts and not risk being fired the next day.

It means that you are not forced to say you agree with what your boss/company is doing because you know you will be fired if you speak your mind.

It means you are not going to be fired because you refused to put your name (signature) on a contract that you know is illegal and corrupt (often when working for corrupt governments, your signature makes you the sacrificial goat if needed).

In the most advanced countries in the world you will never see or hear of any of these problems (or most).
In the sh*tholes it is the DAILY state of life that has not changed for decades and probably will not for many more to come.

This goes beyond freedom of speech. Some of the things you are talking about are protected, and others are you overreaching.

[Deleted]

Mao killed more people than all the fuckin third reich

Kagondo educate yourself before you spew shit

[Vargarii]

Depends on what the business has listed in it's termination policy. If political demonstrations are not covered they could be sued

Even that depends on whether they have at will employment or not.

[Aleksej89]

This goes beyond freedom of speech. Some of the things you are talking about are protected, and others are you overreaching.

The above fully falls in either the freedom of speech or the restriction of employer power.

If you have a specific example then please do point it out in my text.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

You raise good questions that should be determined by experts who are properly educated and experienced for law making.

Right. I'm all for making the relationship more equitable, but go too far and all you do is tip the scales the other way which isn't a practical or effective solution. People should be able to have opinions, but at the same time businesses should be able to protect their interests, even if for no other reason that damaging the business would also hurt others whose salaries or positions might need to be cut during a downturn.
(Obviously this happens naturally in the marketplace, I'm here talking about as a result of deliberate malicious actions).

[Machismo]

Freedom of speech and restriction of employer power should mean that your employer can not intrude and control your personal life just because he fan fire you for no reason and realistically there are no other job opportunities because your country is sh*t (applies less to the most advanced countries).

It means that you can write on your facebook "I am against corrupt judges" and you will not be risking an instant firing by your corrupt boss/employer because he is the one paying for those judges to be corrupted.

It means that you can tell your boss NO when he privately asks to spend an intimate weekend with your daughter in exchange for not firing you.

It means that you can walk out on the street and legally protest against government theft and massive amounts of taxes being stolen through government-private contracts and not risk being fired the next day.

It means that you are not forced to say you agree with what your boss/company is doing because you know you will be fired if you speak your mind.

It means you are not going to be fired because you refused to put your name (signature) on a contract that you know is illegal and corrupt (often when working for corrupt governments, your signature makes you the sacrificial goat if needed).

In the most advanced countries in the world you will never see or hear of any of these problems (or most).
In the sh*tholes it is the DAILY state of life that has not changed for decades and probably will not for many more to come.

The employer is not controlling your personal life, he's controlling his business. That part has yet to sink in. You are literally trying to control your employer's business, which is a great twist of irony. You want to take away his freedoms, because you are upset.

Getting fired, because you are a white supremacist is not a restriction of your freedom of speech, it's an example of an employer displaying his. If you want to complain about government corruption, be my guest, an employer firing you for eing a racist is not an example of it.

[Deleted]

BUT HER E-MAILS!!!!!

Try to stay on topic.


You REALLY REALLY overestimate people here.


Wrong. The first step to dictatorship and authoritarianism are Nazi-marches.
Well actually the second, the first one would be them gathering online.


Clearly most countries do.

Wishing death for people that have contrary opinions to yours makes you shit as them

[Defect]

Kangodo is so braindead he defends communism who killed millions around the world, way more than the nazi could ever dream of, and states its just an economic ideal so it fine.

[Machismo]

mad? I am not mad, I just like to point out the double standards and the too quick too judge someone a nazi mentality.

also someone died, who cares? I certainly dont.

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dont get in the middle of the road

Does that also apply to the cars he rammed?

Don't be a white supremacist. Isn't that what we should tell everyone who gets fired?

[Kathandira]

So all the people at those rallies were Nazis?

Maybe not, but if you stand side by side with them, then you are guilty by association.

[Mirishka]

Good. Fuck them.

Beat me to it!

[Machismo]

The above fully falls in either the freedom of speech or the restriction of employer power.

If you have a specific example then please do point it out in my text.

You don't want freedom of speech, you want to limit the freedoms of employers. learn the difference.

[Deleted]

Thats the problem with commies.

They say that hitler was evil but its ok castro , chavez , mao , nicolas maduro , jose santos (angola president)

[Machismo]

So if you're not a Nazi and you get "You're a Nazi" shouted in your face over and over. Do you not think there's going to be some kind of reaction? Especially if they physically assault you?

If you get assaulted, assault back.

If someone says you are a Nazi, you can either ignore them, or ask yourself if you might be doing things tat a Nazi would do. IN this case, people are supporting Nazis... so it actually fits.

[Vargarii]

The above fully falls in either the freedom of speech or the restriction of employer power.

If you have a specific example then please do point it out in my text.

Not the particular post itself, just your arguments so far. My poor wording is to blame.

A part of what you have been arguing for is for freedom of consequence to be included in freedom of speech protections, and I find that silly.

[Darkeon]

And how many of these are only labeled as such? If some people in MMOC got their way, that list would probably be twice as long..

[Aleksej89]

The employer is not controlling your personal life, he's controlling his business. That part has yet to sink in. You are literally trying to control your employer's business, which is a great twist of irony. You want to take away his freedoms, because you are upset.

Getting fired, because you are a white supremacist is not a restriction of your freedom of speech, it's an example of an employer displaying his. If you want to complain about government corruption, be my guest, an employer firing you for eing a racist is not an example of it.

There is no specific "he can fire you for being racist but not for other reasons" legal clause.
The boss can fire you for ANY or NO reasons.
It can even be that the boss is racist and you are not - and he wants to get rid of you because of that.

Unlimited power for anybody is only good for the side that gets that unlimited power.

In poor countries unlimited employer/tycoon power makes him the boss of your life, because rich people like him are also the ones who are using corrupted politicians/judges/police/military to keep the country in a sh*thole.

Your logic only partly works if the country is actually functioning as it is ideally supposed to - and even then it is a censorship of speech.

If you apply your ideas to poor countries you get the worst imaginable depravity and abuse of power with more daily suffering than developed countries have seen in decades.

[Defect]

Does that also apply to the cars he rammed?

Don't be a white supremacist. Isn't that what we should tell everyone who gets fired?

he can be a white supremacist all he wants aslong he does his job. Same applies those black supremacist and la raza people, they can have all the pride in their race and think of themselves superior aslong they do their job without polluting it with their ideals there is no reason to fire them, the fact that these guys are getting fired now clearly indicates that before being outted nobody knew their ideals so they were doing a good job by keeping their job separated from their political views.

[Jakexe]

Just imagine if the counter-protesters were the alt-right and the main rally was for Isis supporters. Same events carry out and i'm just sure all the alt-right would be defending the Islamists right to not be fired.

The alt-rights integrity (lol) is in shreds, you people are a joke, you've devolved to Isis standards. Shameful.

[Illana]

If you get assaulted, assault back.

If someone says you are a Nazi, you can either ignore them, or ask yourself if you might be doing things tat a Nazi would do. IN this case, people are supporting Nazis... so it actually fits.

Not everyone in that rally was a Nazi, I know you have stated you know this but it really seems you're are collectivising these people just as the left do in order to justify their actions.

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Maybe not, but if you stand side by side with them, then you are guilty by association.

So with antifa siding behind people like Maduro and Chavez and Guevara, they are guilty by association of the horrors of socialism?