Originally Posted by
Nihal
Because to me, i can only say a guild is hardcore if they:
1) Race for the 1st world
2) Everyone in the raid team has at least 3 alts ready to go "equally" geared and the player behind has to be good on all of them, knowing their tricks and what not
3) Raid at least 5 days a week, spending 4-5 hours each day
4) When the PTR is up, every Raid Team member has to be there to already know the fights beforehand.
If a guild does not fill one those criterias, to me they're not hardcore.
And i get you Shiro, they do have the same reasons, but is it justified ? I mean, if every class/spec is capable of doing the dps required to beat the boss, and if you're not in a race, then why give yourself trouble demanding people to change mains or changing main yourself? Just give it time and boss will be beaten eventually.
I am not saying DH is fine and all and if you check my post history you will see that i even tried to main a warrior over the DH, but eh, like i said, i tired of the "number" game and i am blessed to be in a guild where the raid leader says : "if you doing the dps req for the fight, then play w/e you feel like" and to me DH is one of the most fun classes i ever touched in a long time, so yeah, i am sticking with it despite their problems, specially because i love the "chaos strike mash button" gameplay, i love classes that i can spam one single key instead of having a rotation or priority system.
Sometimes i get the impresion that people make the mistake of the meaning of hardcore and casual, as in: hardcore = good players/guild and casual = pleb players/guild who give a fuck about perfomance. I hope this is not the case.
Anyway, i remember of of these Q&A when legion was live and someone asked about classes that arent goood for M+ because of weak AoE/Cleave and Ion said to not judge a class/spec by warcraftlogs and give these said bad class/spec a chance. At start i though he was full of BS but in time, yeah, he may be right. Sometimes i feel the warcraftlogs is just a measure of how popular a spec or class is and not how good or bad they are. Remember EN? DH was pretty much at the top but when you changed to "only boss dmg" they "sucked hard.
But enough with that, i think we may start to derail the thread if we keep this, feel free to pm if you like to continue xD.