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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Yirrah View Post
    Really? That's all you have?

    Capitalism underpins almost all western nations, it's implemented FAR more widely than any Communism ever was. Bad planning and inaction caused famine and death in Communism, Market forces and inaction caused famine and death in Capitalism. Both is bad, neither came about because people WANTED them to happen.

    Your desperate dodging is really quite sad.

    Meanwhile, Nazism and Fascism caused the deaths of millions, not as a result of market forces, bad planning or inaction, but because they happened to follow a religion the Nazi's didn't like, or an ideology the Nazi's didn't like, or have a skin colour the Nazi's didn't like, or they loved someone the Nazi's didn't like, or they associated with someone the Nazi's didn't like.

    People, men women and children, even infants were brutally murdered, because the Nazi's decided they weren't really people, but üntermenschen.

    And you have the audacity to DEFEND them and those who follow their ideology even today, by saying "But Communism..."? You ought to be so ashamed, you should not show your face around here ever again.


    You sicken me.
    We get it, you're a European communist.

    I really wish we had just let Stalin take all of Europe instead of just eastern Europe, be a lot less spoiled bratty entitled euros to deal with now.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Yirrah View Post
    You sicken me.
    His modus operandi seems hand wringing. Do nothing and let bad shit happen. Nazi terror, rape... etc.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Yirrah View Post
    Really? That's all you have?

    Capitalism underpins almost all western nations, it's implemented FAR more widely than any Communism ever was. Bad planning and inaction caused famine and death in Communism, Market forces and inaction caused famine and death in Capitalism. Both is bad, neither came about because people WANTED them to happen.

    Your desperate dodging is really quite sad.

    Meanwhile, Nazism and Fascism caused the deaths of millions, not as a result of market forces, bad planning or inaction, but because they happened to follow a religion the Nazi's didn't like, or an ideology the Nazi's didn't like, or have a skin colour the Nazi's didn't like, or they loved someone the Nazi's didn't like, or they associated with someone the Nazi's didn't like.

    People, men women and children, even infants were brutally murdered, because the Nazi's decided they weren't really people, but üntermenschen.

    And you have the audacity to DEFEND them and those who follow their ideology even today, by saying "But Communism..."? You ought to be so ashamed, you should not show your face around here ever again.


    You sicken me.
    All I see is sickening apologism for the tends of millions murdered by communism. Both fascism and Communism murdered millions, to handwave one away while condemning the other is what is sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    We get it, you're a European communist.

    I really wish we had just let Stalin take all of Europe instead of just eastern Europe, be a lot less spoiled bratty entitled euros to deal with now.
    Hey, not all of us are closet communists.

    My grandfather fought the communists in the Greek civil war, after fighting the Nazis. He was the best man I knew, he had shot both fascists AND communists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    Rofl I'm not defending Nazi's you retarded piece of shit, I'm saying Communists and Nazi's are both scumfucks. You just can't see that because you are too busy sucking noam chomskys dick to say "Hmmm, maybe extremists on both sides can be bad?" so instead you sit on your fucking moral pedestal judging everyone around you as immoral.

    Go fuck yourself you useless twat.

    Now fucking ban me @Endus so I can be released from this fucking jail sentence.
    Well, nice to see you showing who you really are. Go roll a chill pill while you work on your false moral equivalencies.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Sadly the authorities do a shitty job. Nazis attacked churches and synagogues in Charlottesville. Cops did nothing. Antifa defended the clergy. Nazis shot at people. Again, cops did nothing. Nazis beat people up, it took a social media campaign to find the culprits
    You mean the Charlottesville thing?

    If you ask me ANTIFA shouldn't have gone there, Nazi LARPers thrive on confrontation and they take any opportunity to be violent. Just look up what happens you leave them alone:


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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    All I see is sickening apologism for the tends of millions murdered by communism. Both fascism and Communism murdered millions, to handwave one away while condemning the other is what is sickening.

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    Hey, not all of us are closet communists.

    My grandfather fought the communists in the Greek civil war, after fighting the Nazis. He was the best man I knew, he had shot both fascists AND communists.
    wish I had knew him, seems like a great man.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Mittens View Post
    You mean the Charlottesville thing?

    If you ask me ANTIFA shouldn't have gone there, this bunch of Nazi LARPers thrive on confrontation.
    Quote Originally Posted by John F. Kennedy? Edmund Burke? R. Murray Hyslop? Charles F. Aked? John Stuart Mill?
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
    .............

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    Nice one

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post



    Hey, not all of us are closet communists.

    My grandfather fought the communists in the Greek civil war, after fighting the Nazis. He was the best man I knew, he had shot both fascists AND communists.
    Killed Nazis and Commies? F

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    Sure but why does antifa get pre emptively labeled as terrorists while others groups have actually been killing people
    the latest was the car driver, which group did he belong to again? yeah none...

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    We get it, you're a European communist.

    I really wish we had just let Stalin take all of Europe instead of just eastern Europe, be a lot less spoiled bratty entitled euros to deal with now.
    Actually, I'm more on the Liberitarian side of the left than the authoritarian. Don't really want communism, nor do I think it could ever succeed, and I CERTAINLY don't have any trouble condemning what was done under Stalin or Mao. But I won't have people use it as a false moral equivalency to pretend that "At least the Nazi's aren't that bad"

    Nothing excuses what the Nazi's did. Nothing.

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Baelic View Post
    Fun Fact: The US was Antifa during World War 2.

    How did that turn out?
    I thought the US was full of racist and mysogonysitic homophobes during that time? Very hard to keep up with liberal talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    Yeah go fuck yourself you pretentious piece of shit.
    Take a deep breath, you clearly have gone off the deep end.

  15. #115
    Nazis are actively killing innocent Americans. Communists are not.

    Yet, why are people so eager to draw an equivalent?

    Like, Nazis run over people with cars and shoot people in churches and stab them on buses.

    Yet, the only answer people seem to have is whataboutism regarding communists.

  16. #116
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    Lying bullshit thread:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/wo...e.html?mcubz=1

    Three killed during leftist portests in Greece by "protesters who numbered in the hundreds — mostly young and many clad in black, wearing hoods or masks and carrying helmets, wooden bats or hammers — and whom the police and other demonstrators identified broadly as anarchists"

    Aka when Antifa just isn't Antifa enough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    All I see is sickening apologism for the tends of millions murdered by communism. Both fascism and Communism murdered millions, to handwave one away while condemning the other is what is sickening.
    What handwaving? What was done under Stalin and Mao was horrible. Does the fact that someone on the Left did something bad excuse the atrocities the Nazi's commited? If your answer is "No", then you should never, ever try to excuse what Nazi's, Fascists or Neo-Nazi's did or have done by going "But Communists..."

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by thevoicefromwithin View Post
    Lying bullshit thread:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/wo...e.html?mcubz=1

    Three killed during leftist portests in Greece by "protesters who numbered in the hundreds — mostly young and many clad in black, wearing hoods or masks and carrying helmets, wooden bats or hammers — and whom the police and other demonstrators identified broadly as anarchists"

    Aka when Antifa just isn't Antifa enough...
    Greece has a long history of leftist violence. 17 November, a known Greek Communist terrorist group, murdered more than 20 people across multiple attacks and assassinations. They killed Greeks, Americans, British, and Turks.

    And that's just one group. After the socialist PASOK party came to power in 1981, they pardoned and allowed back in a number of pretty vile left-wing groups. Shameful.

    The Communists should have never been allowed to reform in Greece, they almost tore the country apart in our civil war.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    .............
    Defend people when they are directly threatened and work to delegitimize NAZIS (Which they already are as seen by the reaction of the media and americans as a whole), that's the way to fight these idiots. Large scale confrontations and street violence for the sake of it don't do nothing but scale up a problem and plays into the rhetoric of "both sides are the same".
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  20. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    Greece has a long history of leftist violence. 17 November, a known Greek Communist terrorist group, murdered more than 20 people across multiple attacks and assassinations. They killed Greeks, Americans, British, and Turks.

    And that's just one group. After the socialist PASOK party came to power in 1981, they pardoned and allowed back in a number of pretty vile left-wing groups. Shameful.

    The Communists should have never been allowed to reform in Greece, they almost tore the country apart in our civil war.
    There have been left terrorist groups (with few-ish members) tallying similar death counts in Germany and Italy; but the incident mentioned follows exactly the blueprint of Antifa riots in many countries, including the US.

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