Why is Hatuun an arse to Velen?

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When we first meet Hatuun he's an arse to Velen about leaving Argus and how he should die etc BUT in Mac'Aree flashback it shows Hatuun willingly staying behind so Velen can escape so WTF

[Kralljin]

I think he expected that Velen would return sooner with an Army, not run away for 25.000 years.

[Chuckadoodle]

To me the suggestion is that he stays behind to allow Velen to escape, regroup and then fight back, not disappear for millennia leaving the survivors to suffer the horror of the Legion.

[Mekkle]

I would assume Eons of surviving the last stand and suffering on a dying world watching your friends getting killed/changing allegiances would make someone become a tiny bit miffed.

[Aphrel]

Its kinda redicilus that the burning legion cant even stamp out resistance at a world they conquered over 25 000 years ago...

[Drekmar]

Its kinda redicilus that the burning legion cant even stamp out resistance at a world they conquered over 25 000 years ago...

They are not really that much of a resistance, more like runaway slaves.

[Chuckadoodle]

Its kinda redicilus that the burning legion cant even stamp out resistance at a world they conquered over 25 000 years ago...

They dont need to stamp out whatever resistance is on Argus, they werent a threat until "we" arrived with the potential to stop the corruption of the Titan souls.

[tikcol]

They dont need to stamp out whatever resistance is on Argus, they werent a threat until "we" arrived with the potential to stop the corruption of the Titan souls.

yea.. not really man. An infinite amount of demons had an "infinite" amount of time to crush the resistance but failed because the resistance made tunnels. It strikes me as just another shitty Blizzard plot point

[Magistrate]

yea.. not really man. An infinite amount of demons had an "infinite" amount of time to crush the resistance but failed because the resistance made tunnels. It strikes me as just another shitty Blizzard plot point

Well, on the one hand you're pretty right. But arguably to vastly powerful, immortal beings like those in the Legion--and especially to gods like the reconstituted Titans--the surviving Draenei/Broken probably looked like little more than the Marsuuls look to us. Little critters hiding in crags. They had bigger fish to fry.

[Drekmar]

yea.. not really man. An infinite amount of demons had an "infinite" amount of time to crush the resistance but failed because the resistance made tunnels. It strikes me as just another shitty Blizzard plot point

'Resistance'... They were nothing more than slaves for them.

[Chuckadoodle]

yea.. not really man. An infinite amount of demons had an "infinite" amount of time to crush the resistance but failed because the resistance made tunnels. It strikes me as just another shitty Blizzard plot point

You are making a supposition that the Legion even cares that some escaped slaves and pockets of resistance are even worth their time. In a tactical sense it is a waste of time when the bigger picture is to corrupt the captured Titan souls. The "Broken" on Argus and even the Army of Light weren't capable of stopping the larger plans the Dark Titan has so why dedicate resources (even if they are infinite) when if your plan succeeds all the Heroes of Creation would be wiped out in one fell swoop.

[Granyala]

To me the suggestion is that he stays behind to allow Velen to escape, regroup and then fight back, not disappear for millennia leaving the survivors to suffer the horror of the Legion.

Pretty much.
Velen begged the Naaru to return but at that point it was essentially out of his hands.

By the time they could have gone back, the Legion was so entrenched that it would have been suicidal. Hatuun's bitterness prevents him from recognizing that.

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You are making a supposition that the Legion even cares that some escaped slaves and pockets of resistance are even worth their time. In a tactical sense it is a waste of time when the bigger picture is to corrupt the captured Titan souls. The "Broken" on Argus and even the Army of Light weren't capable of stopping the larger plans the Dark Titan has so why dedicate resources (even if they are infinite) when if your plan succeeds all the Heroes of Creation would be wiped out in one fell swoop.

Yup, just like Archi not giving a hoot about the crown piece b/c it's too weak on it's own.

[slime]

Well, on the one hand you're pretty right. But arguably to vastly powerful, immortal beings like those in the Legion--and especially to gods like the reconstituted Titans--the surviving Draenei/Broken probably looked like little more than the Marsuuls look to us. Little critters hiding in crags. They had bigger fish to fry.

Sounds like the plot to a terrible sci-fi movie.....

Battlefield Earth anyone?

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because his had 25,000 years of being trapped in the closest thing to Warcraft has to hell. Velen buggered off to countless worlds and did....nothing. Hatuun's sacrifice meant nothing for the millennia only after Velen personally lost his child did he do something. Velens a douche.

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because his had 25,000 years of being trapped in the closest thing to Warcraft has to hell. Velen buggered off to countless worlds and did....nothing. Hatuun's sacrifice meant nothing for the millennia only after Velen personally lost his child did he do something. Velens a douche.

His sacrifice did mean something though

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yea.. not really man. An infinite amount of demons had an "infinite" amount of time to crush the resistance but failed because the resistance made tunnels. It strikes me as just another shitty Blizzard plot point

Even in a human war you would not waste time fighting the little obstacles, you fight the biggest ones first so that the smallest ones fall with it.

[Traveler Voltin]

something about Velen not saving Hatuun's family

[Scornedfury]

Even in a human war you would not waste time fighting the little obstacles, you fight the biggest ones first so that the smallest ones fall with it.

That's not entirely true. Especially when we are talking about our current one with insurgents (insurgent war/warfare) and the 4-2=6 theory... but you're right in this situation. Jusy As someone who's in the army and my current job position involves military tactics, it's stressed that not every situation can be fixed with "cutting off the head of the snake" strategy..but I digress.


Legion thinks of them as ants. Probably even less. Shoot, maybe thry let them be around because they are useful for there souls for spells and rituals. Who tf knows.

[D Luniz]

When we first meet Hatuun he's an arse to Velen about leaving Argus and how he should die etc BUT in Mac'Aree flashback it shows Hatuun willingly staying behind so Velen can escape so WTF

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=267
same concept

[Deleted]

something about Velen not saving Hatuun's family

Wait when was his family killed?

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http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=267
same concept

Yeah but he expected to die.... Kinda devalues his sacrifice if he expected saving