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    Question Who is the grand leader of Alliance?

    Now that varian is dead?
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    Anduin. He's the heir, everyone dotes on him like he is. Therefor he is the high king.

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    Thought his son became the Grand King of the Alliance so I'll say it's him. Or he's a puppet king since he's still young.
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    It should have been malfurion imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    It should have been malfurion imo
    Malfurion is preeetty darn neutral tho.
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    Currently three is no High King of the Alliance. By tradition it would be the King of Stormwind but Anduin is inexperienced and resistant to the role.

    Personally, I hope the position dies with Varian in favor of a more equilateral Allaince. It makes very little sense to have a teenage boy-king leading any of the Dwarf, Gnome, or Worgen leaders several decades his senior, much less the several-millennia-old Night Elf and Draenei leaders.

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    The High King of the Alliance is kind of a dumb concept to be honest. The nations of the Alliance are sovereign entities in a political and military union with one another, it shouldn't just be a bunch of nations within a nation.

    Why would the immortal Velen or Tyrande/Malfurion eagerly accept being ruled by a human monarch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    The High King of the Alliance is kind of a dumb concept to be honest. The nations of the Alliance are sovereign entities in a political and military union with one another, it shouldn't just be a bunch of nations within a nation.

    Why would the immortal Velen or Tyrande/Malfurion eagerly accept being ruled by a human monarch?
    To give Humans the Illusion of power, so that they fulfill the role of cannon fodder in the Alliance. But that is just a guess ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draeth View Post
    Currently three is no High King of the Alliance. By tradition it would be the King of Stormwind but Anduin is inexperienced and resistant to the role.
    A tradition of 1?

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    While Anduin is King of Stormwind there is no High King of the Alliance atm. Andriun is opting for more of a rule by council.

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    It's more of Anduin being consoled by Velen and Genn, but that's not an actual grand leader I guess since the Kirin Tor/Illidan is mostly leading everything anyway.

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    It's Anduin because Blizzard doesn't know what an alliance is and wants to establish hereditary rule.

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    blizzard new team don't know yet how faction leadership work, so, they pretty much fucked up in legion like putting sylvanas for warchief just for some plot shit twist

    the high king is a militar position, not some hereditary title like normal king, but for some reason, they already said Anduin IS the high king, with no militar experience

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    I've been wondering that myself. It's supposed to be an alliance of sovereign nations and groups, but the Alliance seems to almost exclusively use the flag and emblem of Stormwind for the whole of the Alliance, outside of the others' home territories. Is the leader of Stormwind automatically leader of the Alliance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draeth View Post
    Currently three is no High King of the Alliance. By tradition it would be the King of Stormwind but Anduin is inexperienced and resistant to the role.

    Personally, I hope the position dies with Varian in favor of a more equilateral Allaince. It makes very little sense to have a teenage boy-king leading any of the Dwarf, Gnome, or Worgen leaders several decades his senior, much less the several-millennia-old Night Elf and Draenei leaders.
    Anduin is the high king, blizzard already confirmed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerm View Post
    I've been wondering that myself. It's supposed to be an alliance of sovereign nations and groups, but the Alliance seems to almost exclusively use the flag and emblem of Stormwind for the whole of the Alliance, outside of the others' home territories. Is the leader of Stormwind automatically leader of the Alliance?
    There was no leader of the Alliance until MoP when Blizzard decided it was easier to write the Alliance if it had a copypasta blue flavored Warchief.

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    Hope no one. It was a dumb decision by Blizzard to even introduce such a position into the lore.

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    Genn has seniority and is a competent ruler. Anduin rules by succession, but would probably err to Genn's and Velen's wisdom and experience in times of crisis, making them the effective rulers. Tyrande and Shandris have what it takes, but because they're barely ever involved no one would go to them first for a problem. Malfurion is a druid and out of principle couldn't ever be counted on to put the Alliance first. Magni would make for a good and passionate High King if he wasn't brainwashed and lovey-dovey with Azeroth. Finally, Mekkatorque can't solve his own people's problems, let alone anyone else's. Mathias Shaw would be elected High King before Mekkatorque was put in charge of anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    The High King of the Alliance is kind of a dumb concept to be honest. The nations of the Alliance are sovereign entities in a political and military union with one another, it shouldn't just be a bunch of nations within a nation.

    Why would the immortal Velen or Tyrande/Malfurion eagerly accept being ruled by a human monarch?
    two points, it is not known whether the eredar/draenei are immortal beings or merely have exceptionally long lives, as for the elves they are now mortal and are blessed with long life, in the lore of the warcraft universe humans make up the VAST MAJORITY of the alliance, with about 75% of total representation being human entities, while the remaining factions make up the rest also the way that the power structure works is that within the human political structure it is very feudal, meaning there is a king and his kingdom with alliances formed by wedlock with neighbouring kingdoms and while the elves/draenei/dwarves+gnomes are all separate entities and govern themselves, without the support of the human kingdoms they would be destroyed in no time so it is in their best interests to partner up and have an overall leader to dictate how troops are handled and given clear unified direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddi View Post
    Hope no one. It was a dumb decision by Blizzard to even introduce such a position into the lore.
    it was a necessary position to have in order to give a unified direction to the alliance, similarly to how the horde has their warchief who is the overarching ruler of the whole set of factions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    Now that varian is dead?
    currently it is a council affair with genn and velen at the forefront with anduin as a figurehead, however we have seen from the comic strip that anduin at some point in the not too far off future will assume command of the armies of Azeroth as a paladin alongside velen leading the final charge against the enemies of the void onboard what we can now safely assume to be the vindicaar

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    two points, it is not known whether the eredar/draenei are immortal beings or merely have exceptionally long lives, as for the elves they are now mortal and are blessed with long life, in the lore of the warcraft universe humans make up the VAST MAJORITY of the alliance, with about 75% of total representation being human entities, while the remaining factions make up the rest also the way that the power structure works is that within the human political structure it is very feudal, meaning there is a king and his kingdom with alliances formed by wedlock with neighbouring kingdoms and while the elves/draenei/dwarves+gnomes are all separate entities and govern themselves, without the support of the human kingdoms they would be destroyed in no time so it is in their best interests to partner up and have an overall leader to dictate how troops are handled and given clear unified direction.
    No they wouldn't, most of the races don't have any real threat forcing them to side with the Alliance now. The night elves and orcs have made an uneasy truce on Ashenvale, the dwarves are arguably the strongest they've been since the Anvilmar Dynasty and at this point the draenei have become neutral in everything but name.

    The point being that the Alliance is just what it sounds like, a military alliance between 100% sovereign nations, any race could leave the Alliance if they choose, just like the blood elves did.

    And Stormwind feudalism is...strange, it's implied that the House of Nobles own most of the land in the Kingdom and one Lord was even offering control of his realm to one of his daughter's husbands, but then you have areas like Redridge which seem to have elected officials.

    It also goes without saying that while Stormwind, Gilneas and Ironforge (There aren't Lords, but Thanes and they control clans more than land) are feudal, the others nations of the Alliance aren't. Gnomeregan was a technocratic republic, Darnassus is a theocracy and the draenei are a dictatorship. The Tushui pandaren are more of a philosophy than a true faction and lack a national identity beyond the Wandering Isle.

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