Should Linda Wenzel face execution in Iraq for joining ISIS?

[sarahtasher]

Honestly, if they do execute her we should go to war and fuck Iraq up.

That would require rebuild Iraq from the two or three previous freedomization to destroy it again.

[ParanoiD84]

I wouldn't mind a politically stable and reasonable country in the Middle East that still opposes the US when appropriate. The US really needs more opposition that's not China, their whole world police thing is getting a bit tedious.

One thing is for sure she is lucky to still be alive, isis could have forced her into a suicide bomber or the Iraqis could have beheaded her something alot of them take pride in doing including some in their police force, eye for a eye kind if thing.

So depending on how they view her comming there to hurt Iraqis we will see what happens, she is very lucky though some other Iraqis did not find and beheading her. Ive only seen them play nice with young Iraqis who joined isis i doubt westeners are treated as well.


https://www.google.se/amp/www.mirror...r-10700451.amp


Tons of war crimes going on there against isis to. And i cant really blame them for how much isis have fucked things up there.

[Noradin]

You do not have authority if you can't exercise it and is reliant on the goodwill of another nation. That's just how it is.

Sure, because we say so!
You don't have authority to claim otherwise (again because we say so).

[Seranthor]

Honestly, if they do execute her we should go to war and fuck Iraq up.

I am curious how you think that would go.

[Strawberry]

Wow 70% people voted yes.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.
She's a 16 year old girl. Not mature and easily manipulated.

Internet is full of desentisized shits who don't give a shit about other people and instead act like the world belongs to them, but in fact you're nobodies behind the screen.

[sarahtasher]

Wow 70% people voted yes.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.
She's a 16 year old girl. Not mature and easily manipulated.

Internet is full of desentisized shits who don't give a shit about other people and instead act like the world belongs to them, but in fact you're nobodies behind the screen.

Also, internet tough guys from the States feel the need to prove how edgy there are, while even fracking ISIS give consideration to the age of penal responsability.

[Endus]

If the woman chose to drive that car into a crowd of people, then yeah.
The scope matters; I'm opposed to people being punished for merely existing (a woman driving in SA); I'm not opposed to someone being punished for joining and (reportedly) enforcing the views and actions of a murderous organization.

Was I advocating that she shouldn't face legal punishment? No. I was stating that a nation should, in any case when a citizen is arrested in a foreign nation and will be punished more severely than their country believes is ethical (more strict/punitive than their own legal system could be, in short), they should be seeking to extradite them.

Not to give them some kind of "free pass".

To try them under their law at home, to face the full legal consequences there.

Also, didn't you support the jailing of tourists heiling in germany?

And I'd support their home country asking for them to be sent home when they're arrested.

This isn't the hypocrisy you apparently thought it was.

[Seranthor]

Also, internet tough guys from the States feel the need to prove how edgy there are, while even fracking ISIS give consideration to the age of penal responsability.

So what do the voices in your head say should happen to her?

[Zigrifid]

'Everyone does lots of stupid stuff when they are a teenager.' I laughed at this x)

[sarahtasher]

So what do the voices in your head say should happen to her?

That foreign fighters are probably as popular as the bubonic plague in Irak ATM, and that her fate is in the hands of Irakis.

[ParanoiD84]

Also, internet tough guys from the States feel the need to prove how edgy there are, while even fracking ISIS give consideration to the age of penal responsability.

Isis care about concideration to age of penal responsibility? Is that a joke? You know they have beheaded babies right? They dont give a fuck how old people are when they butcher them.

[sarahtasher]

Isis care about concideration to age of penal responsibility? Is that a joke? You know they have beheaded babies right? They dont give a fuck how old people are when they butcher them.

Pretty much the entire world, except internet tough guys, admit the principe of age of responsability.

[ParanoiD84]

Pretty much the entire world, except internet tough guys, admit the principe of age of responsability.

I just told you they dont so no.

[Seranthor]

Pretty much the entire world, except internet tough guys, admit the principe of age of responsability.

Is that why they use child soldiers then? So they can escape responsibility for their actions?

[TheFirstOnes]

And this, kids, is why you don't join a Terrorist organization.

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Wow 70% people voted yes.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.
She's a 16 year old girl. Not mature and easily manipulated.

Internet is full of desentisized shits who don't give a shit about other people and instead act like the world belongs to them, but in fact you're nobodies behind the screen.

I voted yes, cause she moved all the way from Germany to get to a Terrorist Organization. Idc if she's young, there are Teenagers that know what a Terrorist organization is, and because of that, they don't bother with them. There are teenagers YOUNGER than her, that know better. This isn't about young or old. This is about stupidity versus logic.

[Direpenguin]

Was I advocating that she shouldn't face legal punishment? No. I was stating that a nation should, in any case when a citizen is arrested in a foreign nation and will be punished more severely than their country believes is ethical (more strict/punitive than their own legal system could be, in short), they should be seeking to extradite them.

Not to give them some kind of "free pass".

To try them under their law at home, to face the full legal consequences there.



And I'd support their home country asking for them to be sent home when they're arrested.

This isn't the hypocrisy you apparently thought it was.

If you visit another country, you're under the jurisdiction of that country, not your home. Would you advocate people being punished back in their home countries for doing things that are legal in the countries they are visiting? Should kids visiting Amsterdam face drug charges back in the USA, for example? After all, it's against the laws of their home country. Or are you only saying that this applies when the home nation's laws and punishments are more tolerant and favorable?

[Gaidax]

Yes, good riddance and nice example for other fools who join cutthroats and murderers.

Let's not be totally infantile here - 16 years old know full well killing is wrong, this whole bullshit where somehow only 18+ get divine enlightenment that makes them responsible for their actions is quite wrong in quite a few cases.

I did not have to be 18 years old to know that joining terrorists who cut people heads and set people on fire may not be a good thing to do.

She should be made a loud and clear example to everyone and hopefully it will make others think twice and realize that mommy, daddy and being underage can't cover up for all the shit they do. Quite a few of these brats count just on that in their idiotic calculations.


Let's not make her autistic shall we? She got there just fine and this involves not being oblivious, had quite a few chances to turn back on the way there.

As a whole, I am a firm believer that 16 years old should be fully accountable for their actions, let's not kid ourselves these are not children already and they know full well what murder is and that it is bad.

[SomeChris]

Is that why they use child soldiers then? So they can escape responsibility for their actions?

Most likely they use child soldiers because they are manipulated easily. And because they are there.

[Seidhe]

She is a victim, not a criminal.

Will you say same to some young teen who rape or murder ur son/dauther.

[Adam Jensen]

I don't like the death penalty. Why not just keep her behind bars?