Speculation - Silithus: The Wound

[Hobbidaggy]

New dialogue is interesting. Sounds like it’s a drop of blood from Argus or something. Explains the yellow which is all over Argus

[nothingsjim]

I am glad they finally do something to Silithus, that area has been regarded as one of, if not the worst region ever in WoW.

All these Titan Blood means we will be dealing with empowered Silithids and Qiraji soon, and we may see C'Thun again!

[Hobbidaggy]

This points even more that we will finally see a fully formed and not a campfire version of Sargeras

[Blade Wolf]

Have you forgotten that the Void Lords need to infect a titan with their power and convert it to basically bring about the annihilation of the universe? Sargeras was going around killing world souls His defiant last act was a desperate attempt at finishing the job. This is going to be ground zero for the void assault on Azeroth, they will stop at nothing to see their goals met, and they still have N'Zoth there to do it Yogg, Y'Shaarj, and C'thun are dead. The wild card is Azshara whom is controlled by no one, not even the Old Gods. Azshara could see it as yet another Well of Eternity to tap into since the original well was quite literally a gushing wound in Azeroth caused by removal of Y'Shaarj. I wouldn't be surprised if Nyalotha is a raid or even a new zone to explore and Azshara is the final boss, with N'Zoth being trounced in the first tier.

Y'shaarj is the only truly dead old god, Yogg and C'thun are still imprisoned.

[Qualia]

Y'shaarj is the only truly dead old god, Yogg and C'thun are still imprisoned.

... Just to make sure, you are joking, right?

[Hctaz]

... Just to make sure, you are joking, right?

No, he shouldn't be. That'a the canonical story. We stopped them from poking their little avatars out of the ground basically. If we killed them then the planet would have died with their deaths.

[KhazzahK]

Y'shaarj is the only truly dead old god, Yogg and C'thun are still imprisoned.

[Qualia]

No, he shouldn't be. That'a the canonical story. We stopped them from poking their little avatars out of the ground basically. If we killed them then the planet would have died with their deaths.

It was stated in-game, in comics, and in Q&A with Blizzard. Don't know how much more canon it can get than that. While it might, or might not, get retconned, they are canonically dead at the moment. But let's not waste time in this topic since it has been cleared dozens, possibly hundred of time by now - not while there might still be things to discuss in regards of this scenario at least (although to be fair, everything we know of it has been stated).

And yes, the planet was greatly hurt with their deaths - as they put it "have you ever played any Cataclysm?"

[A Chozo]

Posted this in the other thread, but:

Looking at the earth's wound and Khadgar's new voice in the PTR, my guess is that Sargeras manages to impale Azeroth with his sword in his final moment. Illidan saved us all, yes, but his portal to Argus enabled Sargeras to get near Azeroth. Again, people will hate Illidan for that, but we will all remember for his final sacrifice.

That, or Satan Morroc is at it again.

[Teri]

Only question is why is the Isle of Dread (Feralas) suddenly not sunken anymore

Of course if this is an instanced map, that won't matter, blizz has used old maps for scenarios before.

[Golden Yak]

No, he shouldn't be. That'a the canonical story. We stopped them from poking their little avatars out of the ground basically. If we killed them then the planet would have died with their deaths.

That's no quite how it works. Y'Shaarj's death involved him being torn out of the earth by a Titan, which inflicted massive damage. Killing an Old God also causes their essence to pollute the world, eventually giving rise to things like the Sha. That's what happened with Y'Shaarj.

The two Old Gods we fought were not imprison, they were killed, but not in as traumatically destructive a fashion of Y'Shaarj. The fallout of their deaths has yet to be fully realized, but might very well be a big problem in the future, just not as suddenly evident as Y'Shaarj's death was. It was implied that their death may have set the world up for the Cataclysm to occur. Their bodies are still dangerous - Y'Shaarj's heart was so dangerous it had to be locked away, and it spent millennia radiating dark energy and bleeding the Old God's black blood even before it was revived.

[Hctaz]

It was stated in-game, in comics, and in Q&A with Blizzard. Don't know how much more canon it can get than that. While it might, or might not, get retconned, they are canonically dead at the moment. But let's not waste time in this topic since it has been cleared dozens, possibly hundred of time by now - not while there might still be things to discuss in regards of this scenario at least (although to be fair, everything we know of it has been stated).

And yes, the planet was greatly hurt with their deaths - as they put it "have you ever played any Cataclysm?"

I'd need to see that then because what I remember is very different. There are a lot of people who think the same way as me. Pretty sure it was stated in MoP that only Y'shaarj was truly dead and the others were just beaten.

[KhazzahK]

I'd need to see that then because what I remember is very different. There are a lot of people who think the same way as me. Pretty sure it was stated in MoP that only Y'shaarj was truly dead and the others were just beaten.

What you remember is different than what is fact.

[Engal]

Told you guys

At the hour of her third death. It will usher in our coming.

It was azeroth

[lightofdawn]

SPOILERS: sargeras impales azeroth with his sword as a final act of vengeance.

if that's actually true, i cant wait to see the cinematic

[DeicideUH]

Seems like this will be a phase over regular Silithus. So, once you finish the raid, Silithus is changed for you. There'll probably be a NPC to skip to past phase.

[pyrostorm9001]

I hope this is the time to bring this back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOT-dgvbYMg or at least iterate on the ideas in this scrapped bit of content.

In regards to the talk of what old god is alive and what one isnt. They dont exist like a mortal, and they certainly dont die like one. The powers of the old gods are still felt in the form of the sha when it comes to Y'shaarj. C'Thun while "dead" still had power enough to be an influence to Cho'Gall. Yogg-Saron has returned to the game and, its whispers heard throughout the halls of Ulduar once again. Il'gynoth (while not an old god) flat out tells us that it is returning to Ny'alotha, and while there is no evidence on what Ny'alotha is, to return there could be a similar process to what demons do returning to the Twisting Nether on their "death"

In short death is merely a set back.

[Ealyssa]

I'd need to see that then because what I remember is very different. There are a lot of people who think the same way as me. Pretty sure it was stated in MoP that only Y'shaarj was truly dead and the others were just beaten.

An yet he is right and you are wrong. Get over it.

[nothingsjim]

We have seen powerful beings like Medivh, Aegwynn leaving behind Echos of their power that're fully sentient. Aegwynn's Echo assisted us in Tomb of Sargeras, and the Sha are, for all intend and purpose, Echo of Y'Shaarj.

Death is not the end of story.

[Katie45]

Here we go again lol