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    Muslims in the EU: High levels of trust despite pervasive discrimination

    http://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/f...indings_en.pdf
    http://fra.europa.eu/en/press-releas...discrimination

    The vast majority of Muslims in the EU have a high sense of trust in democratic institutions despite experiencing widespread discrimination and harassment, a major survey by the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA) shows. The survey captures the experiences of Muslim immigrants and their EU-born children, revealing that public attitudes have changed all too little over the last decade.
    “Our survey results make a mockery of the claim that Muslims aren’t integrated into our societies. On the contrary, we see a trust in democratic institutions that is higher than much of the general population,” says FRA Director Michael O’Flaherty. “However, every incident of discrimination and hate crime hampers their inclusion and reduces their chances of finding employment. We risk alienating individuals and their communities, with potentially perilous consequences.”

    "I am encouraged by the confidence of Europe's Muslim communities in our public institutions and rule of law, despite the individual challenges of discrimination which they attest to,” says European Commission First Vice-President Frans Timmermans. “But I am disheartened by the EU Fundamental Rights Agency's report which shows that over the past five years almost one in three Muslims feel that they have been discriminated against when looking for work, but that only 12% of Muslims have reported the latest cases of discrimination. I want to assure our Muslim citizens that the European Commission will not tolerate intolerance. It goes against our values and our laws."

    European Commissioner for Justice, Consumers and Gender Equality Věra Jourová says: "The Fundamental Rights Agency report shows that discrimination against Muslims is too widespread. I'm especially concerned about the challenges faced by Muslim women in Europe. It is now our duty both at European, national and local level to make sure that anti-discrimination measures are respected and that the Muslim community can trust the police".

    The Second European Union Minorities and Discrimination Survey (EU-MIDIS II): Muslims – selected findings is the second large scale survey of Muslims carried out by the Fundamental Rights Agency. As well as markers of integration such as a sense of belonging and trust in public institutions, the survey asked about experiences of discrimination, harassment, police stops, and rights awareness.

    Key findings include:

    76% of Muslim respondents feel strongly attached to the country they live in;
    31% of those seeking work felt discriminated against over the last five years;
    42% of respondents who had been stopped by the police over the last year said this happened because of the migrant or ethnic minority background.


    The report suggests a number of solutions, including:

    Effective sanctions for violations of anti-discrimination legislation;
    Reinforcement of trust in the police through targeted outreach activities;
    Greater efforts to increase the participation of Muslims in decision-making processes.

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    I don't believe random statics from the internet. I talked to alot of muslims in my life and they all think their mother country is their big holy land.
    They can't have both. Same with their passports. this counts for all islamic countries.
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    This rabbit hole in Europe is quite hilarious to watch. Yes, more acceptance of the most conservative culture on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy911 View Post
    This rabbit hole in Europe is quite hilarious to watch. Yes, more acceptance of the most conservative culture on the planet.
    American evangelicalism? It's rather limited here don't worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aya L View Post
    http://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/f...indings_en.pdf
    http://fra.europa.eu/en/press-releas...discrimination

    Key findings include:

    76% of Muslim respondents feel strongly attached to the country they live in;
    31% of those seeking work felt discriminated against over the last five years;
    42% of respondents who had been stopped by the police over the last year said this happened because of the migrant or ethnic minority background.
    First is a feel. Second is a feel. Third is a "methinks".

    Not really trustworthy enough to be called statistics? And the last thing I want is more religious groups involved in decision making processes. USA is a good enough warning example of this. Now, if someone muslim wants to get involved in politics, they can do so. Get nominated and get elected. No need to do it anyway other than the democratic way.
    "It's just like I always said! You can do battle with strength, you can do battle with wits, but no weapon can beat a great pair of tits!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    American evangelicalism? It's rather limited here don't worry.
    If the Evangelical population was reaching new highs in Europe along with more frequent terror attacks perhaps they would become a concern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    If the Evangelical population was reaching new highs in Europe along with more frequent terror attacks perhaps they would become a concern?
    Is this one of those attempt to indirectly attempt to declare that every muslim is automatically a terrorist? Also you americans need to make up your mind, one day you guys claim it are the refugees that are always the terrorists, another day you claim it is muslims that have been born and raised here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    I don't believe random statics from the internet. I talked to alot of muslims in my life and they all think their mother country is their big holy land.
    They can't have both. Same with their passports. this counts for all islamic countries.
    You do not call them Dutch, nor accept them into society. You have obsession with their skin colors, their eye colors, their hair colors and their religion and expect them to integrate and call Netherlands their "big holy land".

    You first sort your shitty attitude towards immigrants, systematic discrimination and widespread racism in your country, then complain. Americans have few tricks to teach you and change your racist culture.

    This doesn't mean Muslims in Europe are perfect. In fact far from it but the blame is on both ends. Sooner you embrace this fact, the better it's going to be for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post


    If muslims love their new western homes so much, why do so many of them want sharia law, or to make homosexuality illegal?
    To understand this, you need to understand a few things. People who openly oppose Erdogan, know that either them or their family will pay for it back in Turkey in some way, mostly themselves and they do wish to go visit their family still. Same what happened with the voting process, a large number simply stayed home and even those that opposed him, often out of fear of becoming a target near the polling booth.

    Another is Erdogan provide a lot of services to rural regions, regions where mostly these turks in Europe come from. So they look at what he is doing for their families over there and forgive almost everything he does because of that.

    It is problematic however but, Erdogan is a problem Turkey will have to deal with. The more we act on this the more he gets to play out his role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    You do not call them Dutch, nor accept them into society. You have obsession with their skin colors, their eye color, their hair colors and their religion and expect them to integrate and call Netherlands their "big holy land".

    You first sort your shitty attitude towards immigrants, systematic discrimination and widespread racism in your country, then complain. Americans have few tricks to teach you and change your racist culture.
    If they wanna live here. Yes they do. They gotta earn their respect. Which they demand to get for free.
    This is the real world we talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    If they wanna live here. Yes they do. They gotta earn their respect. Which they demand to get for free.
    This is the real world we talk about.
    They don't, and they still live. The fuck you gonna do about it? Complain in a gaming forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    They don't, and they still live. The fuck you gonna do about it? Complain in a gaming forum?
    Apperently i am. Since i can't deport them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    If they wanna live here. Yes they do. They gotta earn their respect. Which they demand to get for free.
    This is the real world we talk about.
    It's all the Europeans' fault for not being accommodating enough and changing their entire cultural identity to suit the Islamic migrants.

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    American evangelicalism? It's rather limited here don't worry.
    You're welcome for saving your continent twice already. We won't save it a third time. You're clearly not worth the trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    It's all the Europeans' fault for not being accommodating enough and changing their entire cultural identity to suit the Islamic migrants.
    The failure of integration is a case of both sides having made mistakes not just one, that is if you are capable of looking at the subject without too much bias and assumptions.

    Ignoring your silly statement but the actual case was, these people were not intended to remain here, they were guest workers, a temporary work force. A work force we recruited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    It's all the Europeans' fault for not being accommodating enough and changing their entire cultural identity to suit the Islamic migrants.

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    You're welcome for saving your continent twice already. We won't save it a third time. You're clearly not worth the trouble.
    An eastern culture will never fit in a western world. This is a forced thing by the western goverment. But in the end a new generetion will rise against it.
    Just wait till Germany will stop feeling bad for themself because WWI and WWII and start steamrolling the eastern countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    You're welcome for saving your continent twice already. We won't save it a third time. You're clearly not worth the trouble.
    Oh you are one of those, an american scared of brown people. Saved us, the US military did save us after a lot of convincing, american evangelicals however did nothing for us and never will. What's the difference between a conservative Muslim woman and an evangelical american one? The first one is allowed to have an abortion.

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    disgusting dishonest subversive "statistics"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    You do not call them Dutch, nor accept them into society. You have obsession with their skin colors, their eye colors, their hair colors and their religion and expect them to integrate and call Netherlands their "big holy land".

    You first sort your shitty attitude towards immigrants, systematic discrimination and widespread racism in your country, then complain. Americans have few tricks to teach you and change your racist culture.
    I don't think it's fair to compare the challenge. The reality of US migration is that Americans are lucky that Mexico and Latin America speak European languages, has similar Christian roots, and largely value Western models of civilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    If they wanna live here. Yes they do. They gotta earn their respect. Which they demand to get for free.
    This is the real world we talk about.
    What did you ever do to earn their respect ?
    Talk rubbish about strangers on internet ?

    More like dressing up like zwarte piet and claiming its not racist.. Very respectful...

    Respect is something you give to get back, not something you "earn".

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    I can just feel the blood rushing through and engorging the penises of those trying to contain their erections as they rush to this thread to circle jerk about Muslims .
    "It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all outta ass."

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