Youtube demonetization drama?

[Video Games]

The ironic thing here is that the super lazy shit like top 10 lists and uploads from twitch vods don't typically get demonitized. The shit that gets hit hard is the stuff that's actually hard to produce, because apparently history and mathematics videos are controversial.

Math killed my mother, and raped my father.

[StayTuned]

All this is true, but my point is that even if you don't slip up at all, super PG content like children's videos get demonetized on a fairly regular basis, while things like hearthstone videos are safe if you don't fuck up.

I don't know. I'd count Videogames to the same category as other children's videos.

YT wants sellable cookie cutter content that no company can decline ads on. So not even the SJW crowd is safe even though they're the reason of this bs.

Like, if you are talking about being gay, or anything else in regards to sexuality or anything else that might trigger somebody, bb to your money.

[OrcsRLame]

Math killed my mother, and raped my father.

Stunning rebuttal. The point is that the adpocalypse didn't really hurt the people that you don't like. It's fucking over the hobbyists that actually make interesting stuff and use youtube as supplementary income. It is a totally indefensible shit show.

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I don't know. I'd count Videogames to the same category as other children's videos.

YT wants sellable cookie cutter content that no company can decline ads on. So not even the SJW crowd is safe even though they're the reason of this bs.

Like, if you are talking about being gay, or anything else in regards to sexuality or anything else that might trigger somebody, bb to your money.

I've seen children's videos, like, actual children's videos, that have been demonetized for no reason.

[Video Games]

Stunning rebuttal. The point is that the adpocalypse didn't really hurt the people that you don't like. It's fucking over the hobbyists that actually make interesting stuff and use youtube as supplementary income. It is a totally indefensible shit show.

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I've seen children's videos, like, actual children's videos, that have been demonetized for no reason.

I don't think i said the contrary? I just don't believe those videos count as real jobs because they are unskilled and no effort.

[StayTuned]

Isn't that okay if the new content isn't immediately profitable? I'm not a YouTuber, but the projects I'm most passionate about are worth more than a financial return. When YouTubers initially get started running purely on enthusiasm, then later turn it into an income source, I think it elevates the idea of their channel and content.

It's only half applicable right now. To make it to the top you can't start with low quality crap content anymore. Back in the days, like 7+ years ago, all content was pretty much shit.

Now you have conglomerates of Youtubers who band together, cross promote themselves, instigate drama to generate clicks....

To even be viewed a little bit you need to invest a decent amount of time into shooting, editing and your ideas. The market is too saturated by now for random people to become the next Pewd.

Before it was just enough to record yourself with a webcam. Now even channels with less than 50k subs have expensive setups, people who cut their videos and make their special bait thumbnails... it's so stupid.

[Ave07]

I'm all for it as YouTube used to be fun but now people are out pumping weekly videos just so they can make some cash to pay the bills.

I think only one of my subs does YouTube for fun and he doesn't even monetize his videos as he has a job.

[Yunru]

Youtube money from adds was never a good payment. The only way to sustain yourself is to spam videos and have a lot of followers.
Anything that takes time to make its simply not worth it. (like computer animation for example)

https://www.quora.com/How-much-do-Yo...and-1-5m-views

In other words, donations are better option, since it only takes 1 person out of 1000 to donate 5$ and you can make more than from adds.

[Machismo]

Personally, I see it as a lot of whining from people who want to be edgy, and are pissing off their employer. If they are demonetized, then they should go elsewhere, that's how the free market works. They can whine and complain all they like, but at the end of the day, they almost always bring it on themselves. I have zero sympathy for them.

[Alvito]

No. I'm talking about a job where you have to clock in at an office or restaurant and get paid a wage etc. I'm just asking. Are these youtubers worried about having to go out into the real world? I guess i dont understand.

Just like with anything else if they aren't getting enough money from one source they will have to supplement it somehow or find a completely new way to make money. I would imagine a lot of video game based youtubers will be shutting things down or doing far less if they were doing it for the money. If all of a sudden I was making 50 to 90% less at my job I certainly wouldn't keep doing it, these people are no different.

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The ironic thing here is that the super lazy shit like top 10 lists and uploads from twitch vods don't typically get demonitized. The shit that gets hit hard is the stuff that's actually hard to produce, because apparently history and mathematics videos are controversial.

Comment section responses are impacting things too. So you can be demonetized due to trolling which is just insane.

[Pawstruck]

Why is this thread so derailed? holy shit

The moment the word "demonitization" hit YT, everyone - EVERYONE - should have gone to an alternate site at once. Break Google's fucking back, I say. They're a pseudo-monopoly and only consumerism will break them.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

Networks are offering a manual request service for their top tier partners boasting an 80 percent success rate. People making videos on it are largely over reacting because they are losing some money. In reality, most legit YouTuber count their ad revenue as one of their smaller sources of income.

[PC2]

Why is this thread so derailed? holy shit

The moment the word "demonitization" hit YT, everyone - EVERYONE - should have gone to an alternate site at once. Break Google's fucking back, I say. They're a pseudo-monopoly and only consumerism will break them.

It's hard to break their back when people arent even paying for the service in the first place. (A few are through YouTube Red)

I think the bottom line is, culture of sponsorship > culture of advertisement.

[StayTuned]

Personally, I see it as a lot of whining from people who want to be edgy, and are pissing off their employer. If they are demonetized, then they should go elsewhere, that's how the free market works. They can whine and complain all they like, but at the end of the day, they almost always bring it on themselves. I have zero sympathy for them.

Then you know nothing about Youtube and who got hit by the adpocalypse.

Imagine the following:

You are an independent journalist and you'd like to post your stories and findings on Youtube. You are a proper lad, you take your job serious and you create quality content.

You go to war zones, report on local terrorism. Too bad, you just got demonetized because your video includes Muslims and violence.

Controversial issues and sensitive events: Video content that features or focuses on sensitive topics or events including, but not limited to, war, political conflicts, terrorism or extremism, death and tragedies, sexual abuse, even if graphic imagery is not shown, is generally not eligible for ads. For example, videos about recent tragedies, even if presented for news or documentary purposes, may not be eligible for advertising given the subject matter.

You go to Germany to report on a demonstration against fascism. Too bad, you just got demonetized because you were talking about a sensible topic that might upset someone.

Incendiary and demeaning: Video content that is gratuitously incendiary, inflammatory, or demeaning may not be eligible for advertising. For example, video content that shames or insults an individual or group may not be eligible for advertising.

You go to Columbia to report on the increased drug usage and how it impacts the local population. Too bad, you know the drill.

Drugs and dangerous products or substances: Video content that promotes or features the sale, use, or abuse of illegal drugs, regulated drugs or substances, or other dangerous products is not eligible for advertising. Videos discussing drugs or dangerous substances for educational, documentary, and artistic purposes are generally eligible for advertising, so long as drug use or substance abuse is not graphic or glorified.

Suddenly, a random asshat clickbait journalist shows up. He's upset about the few videos that do make you money. Now he flags you and gets your videos taken down. Until you get them back up again nobody wants to see your video anymore, making you lose your income. Now in addition to getting fucked, you get super super fucked.


Now you are forced to work for the WSJ and make shit journalism to make a living.




And that's just one example.

[Machismo]

Then you know nothing about Youtube and who got hit by the adpocalypse.

Imagine the following:

You are an independent journalist and you'd like to post your stories and findings on Youtube. You are a proper lad, you take your job serious and you create quality content.

You go to war zones, report on local terrorism. Too bad, you just got demonetized because your video includes Muslims and violence.



You go to Germany to report on a demonstration against fascism. Too bad, you just got demonetized because you were talking about a sensible topic that might upset someone.



You go to Columbia to report on the increased drug usage and how it impacts the local population. Too bad, you know the drill.



Suddenly, a random asshat clickbait journalist shows up. He's upset about the few videos that do make you money. Now he flags you and gets your videos taken down. Until you get them back up again nobody wants to see your video anymore, making you lose your income. Now in addition to getting fucked, you get super super fucked.


Now you are forced to work for the WSJ and make shit journalism to make a living.




And that's just one example.

Well, it's all about pleasing their advertisers. After all, YouTube is there to make money. They don't make money if they piss off their advertisers. Let's be honest, there's always someone else willing to post a video.

So, that journalist can still post a video, he or she will simply not be paid to do it. The journalist is not a victim, and if they don't like it, they can always try and sell their video somewhere else. Here's a thought, open up your own video sharing service, and pay that journalist out of your own pocket.

[StayTuned]

Let's just please not forget that this idiot is Youtubes CEO




Screw Mike Dice and his content but this video is gold. It shows you what kind of direction Youtube is taking with such a "leader".

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Well, it's all about pleasing their advertisers. After all, YouTube is there to make money. They don't make money if they piss off their advertisers. Let's be honest, there's always someone else willing to post a video.

So, that journalist can still post a video, he or she will simply not be paid to do it. The journalist is not a victim, and if they don't like it, they can always try and sell their video somewhere else. Here's a thought, open up your own video sharing service, and pay that journalist out of your own pocket.

There was absolutely no problem for 10+ years before that idiot Pewds screwed up and messed with MSM and the SJW crowd.

Youtube just kneejerked to a reaction that was never necessary and completely blown out of proportion.

So right now YT has a problem that they will not attract quality content creators, because there needs to be a foreseeable, sustainable future in this endeavor. Unless you just wanna post shit for giggles. If that's what YT wants... okay?

And if you were an established Youtuber, you basically got fired without due notice. This is illegal practice in most normal, civilized countries.

[Ealyssa]

that people aren't accepting that there is no value to their work

Then why not doing it ? And doing it better ? Id the youtubers are making so much money, so easily, without doing any work. Why don't you put some actual work and make millions ?

Really confused about all those jealous people hiding behind "I don't hate, I just don't see the point". Sure buddy, but we all see your pathetic attempts.

[Machismo]

Let's just please not forget that this idiot is Youtubes CEO




Screw Mike Dice and his content but this video is gold. It shows you what kind of direction Youtube is taking with such a "leader".

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There was absolutely no problem for 10+ years before that idiot Pews screwed up and messed with MSM and the SJW crowd.

Youtube just kneejerked to a reaction that was never necessary and completely blown out of proportion.

I do love the irony of you posting a YouTube video to complain about YouTube...

[the game]

I'm all for it as YouTube used to be fun but now people are out pumping weekly videos just so they can make some cash to pay the bills.

I think only one of my subs does YouTube for fun and he doesn't even monetize his videos as he has a job.

So they shouldn't want to pay the bills with their source of income?

[StayTuned]

I do love the irony of you posting a YouTube video to complain about YouTube...

There is no irony here.

[Machismo]

There is no irony here.

Oh, it's pretty ironic. For all your complaints about them, here you are, obediently using their service to demonstrate how much you hate their service...

Yup, that's fucking hilarious.