1. #6561
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    There are trolls at every tier, you would be kidding yourself to believe otherwise.
    But seriously, almost every game is either "your team got 1+ trolls, you lose" or "the enemy team got 1+ trolls, you win".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Better get used to it. Current " of really Meta but it is Meta because we want it to be Meta" of Plat and just before (started around 2380 for me), is constantly running 3-4 damage, 1-2 tanks, and a solo healer. As a matter of fact, on a personal level, I think it's been that way almost the entire season for me. It's actually getting to the point that I'm about to start solo healing with Lucio again, just for some variety. Most of my playtime this season is now on Mercy, simply because I end up solo healing so many matches and she's just more effective for it. That doesn't mean Lucio can't, as he is who I started with this season and climbed to 2200 before swapping to Mercy, but you get a lot less team bitching with Mercy than you do with Lucio. Flip side is I can be a lot more aggressive with him, which some games seem to be necessary because some of the teams I get are too scared to make a push, even after we get 3 picks with 5-6 of us still alive.
    Good Genji's are actually decent at countering Pharah's. Over time I e gotten so used to her movement she's a very easy target to hit, and while I'm not good enough to play Genji (never play him and hate the character), I see a lot of Pharah deaths to Genji lately.
    Noticed my losing games are having the same issues I had previously: people picking Genji and getting hard countered by Winston, where my teams Winston ignores the enemy Genji running behind us and dive bombs into the middle of Roadhog, Reaper, and any other tank around to die instantly, then bitch they got no heals.
    Had 1 game where 1 person was complaining so bad my team actually came to my defense, stating we only had 1 healer and they were suicide bombing the team. Kind of nice to have support from your team vs people trying to place blame on others.
    Yeah 4 DPS is the ‘wishful thinking meta’. Sometimes, yes you can replace the off tank or off healer with certain DPS, but that doesn’t mean you can replace both with just any DPS.

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    Also since hitting 2200 again, my wins are hard fought and I do pretty well. My losses, catastrophically hopeless due to horrendous compositions and very bad play with said composition. Result is I'm losing a little more than I gain, because the losses are just so impossible to participate in.

  3. #6563
    Sigh. Miserable experience this weekend. Even when you get wins it feels like shit because you know it's just because you won the "who gets the most trolls" coin flip.

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    Doomfist can, if he gets mildly lucky, get an instant pick. And them immediately die a horrible death from focus fire. So unless that one pick is all you needed to break the enemy team, it's an even trade at best.

    His big issue is that while his pick game is relatively strong, he has very little sustained-fire game. Uppercut and his jump smash are mostly good for mobility or setting up a punch, and his 4-shot limit means he can't hang back and whittle down shields like basically everyone else could.

    And you're trading all that for the hope you can do a punch and NOT get gibbed instantly in trade. Not really worth it most of the time.
    I saw a Doomfist ulti go off for the first time today. The team using him was a bunch of complete trolls, but hey, it happened.
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  4. #6564
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The big difference is that with Hanzo, you charge and HOLD, and release at will.

    With Mei, it charges and fires automatically, so you can't shoot immediately, you have to shoot while tracking ahead of them for a solid second or so before it actually fires. And if they duck behind cover after you pull the trigger, well, you're stuck in that firing loop.

    If Mei could hold that shot like Hanzo they'd be pretty similar, but as it is, she's a lot harder to snipe with.
    I find it a lot easier to snipe with Mei than Hanzo. Not sure why, bigger hitbox on her ice or something maybe.
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    That's enough OW for tonight. 90SR down because people don't know how to build a composition and don't know how to prioritise targets. Seems the closer you get to the 'mean', the more players there are who really don't deserve to be there. 90% in a premade that's failing at boosting them.

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    I had taken a nice long break from Competitive to if its changed.

    Nope. Same bullshit like always. Whatever is this game's problem with me being
    Platinum again I have no idea.

  7. #6567
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    I had taken a nice long break from Competitive to if its changed.

    Nope. Same bullshit like always. Whatever is this game's problem with me being
    Platinum again I have no idea.
    Well, according to some of the blue posts Endus linked, the system decides where it thinks you should be based on performance (assuming this initially starts during placements). If you take an "extended" (who knows how long that is) break, or go on a winning/losing streak (again, didn't see specific parameters but could range 5-10 for a safe assumption) the system becomes less certain. So, in the terms of SR, taking a break is bad, losing too much is bad, winning too much is bad, and all lead to wide swings in your gain/loss of SR per game.
    Think I posted (maybe not) but over the course of 1 day, I went from gaining 30+ points on a win and losing 10-15 per loss, to now gaining 10-15 and losing 27+ per game. The gains of 30+ lasted approx 4 days, and the swing happened after I logged off for 8 hours due to work. Fell about 100 rating in 3 games, and over the last 2 days I've managed to climb up to 2606, still 50 points off from my season high due to that swing.
    It's whatever, but I'm hoping to claw my way up to Diamond for once and that swing in SR is definitely not helping.

  8. #6568
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    But seriously, almost every game is either "your team got 1+ trolls, you lose" or "the enemy team got 1+ trolls, you win".
    Yeah this "If I could only get out of ello hell I could get away from the trolls" is half wishful thinking and half retardation.
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Yeah this "If I could only get out of ello hell I could get away from the trolls" is half wishful thinking and half retardation.
    My experience from 1750 through to 2460 suggests it never fucking ends. And it's worse on weekends.
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    All of you people would still complain if you were 3k, 4k or top 500 too.

    Set more honest and realistic goals.

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    played a quick play with a buddy, it was us and 4 randos against a 6 stack

    we had 1 tank, and 5 DPS (I was the hog) enemy team had an actual comp

    we fucking rekt them.

  12. #6572
    Im hurt that people are leveling up new accounts and go on a losing streak only to sell said accounts to higher level players to reck bronzies.

    Saw my friend playing at bronze and theres a amurf in every game either with his team or against. Makes it real hard to learn ...

  13. #6573
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Your friend is kind of sad.
    Assuming that any part of his posts are real - yes.
    I doubt it.

    I agree with you though. People generally tend to play at the rank where they belong. I was in Platinum for about a week before I got knocked back down, I'm just not at that level and I'm fine with it
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  14. #6574
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Yeah this "If I could only get out of ello hell I could get away from the trolls" is half wishful thinking and half retardation.
    I'm not implying that there are no trolls in higher brackets.

    However this season the troll problem in the 2-2.5k range seems a lot worse. Even compared to previous seasons.
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  15. #6575
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I'm not implying that there are no trolls in higher brackets.

    However this season the troll problem in the 2-2.5k range seems a lot worse. Even compared to previous seasons.
    It is in every bracket, not just the one you happen to be experiencing. Low brackets have people crashing their rank so a high rank can buy the account and wreck bronzes for lols, high ranks have lots of aim bots and every rank has throwers, griefers and trolls. There is no escape from bad players and that isn’t on Blizz, that is on our gaming community.
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

  16. #6576
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    It is in every bracket, not just the one you happen to be experiencing. Low brackets have people crashing their rank so a high rank can buy the account and wreck bronzes for lols, high ranks have lots of aim bots and every rank has throwers, griefers and trolls. There is no escape from bad players and that isn’t on Blizz, that is on our gaming community.
    I don't disagree, I'm just saying it's been getting worse.

    And I don't think it's the same in every bracket equally.
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  17. #6577
    I don't normally play Symmetra, but when I do... I run up to the payload on Gibralter as it is inches from the end and my entire team is dead to keep the overtime going and I drop a teleporter right behind it and in my deathcam I watch my team mop up the win!

    "That fucking teleporter!!!"
    "Korean plays, don't ask..."
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

  18. #6578
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    I don't normally play Symmetra, but when I do... I run up to the payload on Gibralter as it is inches from the end and my entire team is dead to keep the overtime going and I drop a teleporter right behind it and in my deathcam I watch my team mop up the win!

    "That fucking teleporter!!!"
    "Korean plays, don't ask..."
    That's one cocky play ! Lucky that the enemy team did not instantly blow it up. :P Did you record it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Well, according to some of the blue posts Endus linked, the system decides where it thinks you should be based on performance (assuming this initially starts during placements). If you take an "extended" (who knows how long that is) break, or go on a winning/losing streak (again, didn't see specific parameters but could range 5-10 for a safe assumption) the system becomes less certain. So, in the terms of SR, taking a break is bad, losing too much is bad, winning too much is bad, and all lead to wide swings in your gain/loss of SR per game.
    Think I posted (maybe not) but over the course of 1 day, I went from gaining 30+ points on a win and losing 10-15 per loss, to now gaining 10-15 and losing 27+ per game. The gains of 30+ lasted approx 4 days, and the swing happened after I logged off for 8 hours due to work. Fell about 100 rating in 3 games, and over the last 2 days I've managed to climb up to 2606, still 50 points off from my season high due to that swing.
    It's whatever, but I'm hoping to claw my way up to Diamond for once and that swing in SR is definitely not helping.
    That and getting teammates who pick Mei, incessantly claim that she is a tank (she isn't, but you'll find plenty of dumb fucks
    who think otherwise sadly), and stays as Mei against an enemy composition that has a Soldier 76, Tracer, and Junk Rat.

  20. #6580
    Quote Originally Posted by A-sayo View Post
    That's one cocky play ! Lucky that the enemy team did not instantly blow it up. :P Did you record it ?
    I did not, I recently wiped my computer clean to find out what was wrong with it (turned out to be internal hard drive I had games o. Was very very old, and I had not redownliaded OBS yet.
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

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