How 'MeToo' is exposing the scale of sexual abuse

[Wildtree]

I don't have female friends.

that's rather sad...

And my male friends and I never grab each other's crotch, that would be gay.

Nonsense. How old are you? 11?

But we do joke about raping each other sometimes.

that's immature and almost always inappropriate.

[Phlegethon]

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Normally I scoff at these sort of trends as nothing more than online narcissism BUT I can actually get behind this... People are ignorant on not only how common it is but the shame so many men and women feel who are victims of sexual abuse/assault. Too many feel they can't tell their story out of fear of judgment

The claims are there, none of them actually prove anything though...

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that's rather sad...

How so? Men get along better with men, women get along better with women. That's why most men have mostly male friends and most women have mostly female friends. I have female acquaintances, but none I would call friends. Most women I've met in my life just don't share the same interests as me. With my male friends I can talk about politics and philosophy, videogames and TV shows and movies... and porn. And women in general. With women, if you talk politics it's mostly leftist shit. If you talk about videogames, shows or movies, it's usually just very shallow. Like they are into shit like, how their gear looks like in games like WoW, transmog, how pretty Jaina is, how she's a really stronk womyn, how handsome Chris Pine is. And then you have to listen to their gossip. It just doesn't work. You'd have to be friends with a lesbian. If you can find one that doesn't hate men.

Nonsense. How old are you? 11?

Because adults like grabbing each other's crotch? If you don't you're a child, I guess.

that's immature and almost always inappropriate.

Yeah joking about raping each other with you male friends is inappropriate and immature, but grabbing each other's cocks is what real gentlemen do, and not gay at all.

Why would it be inappropriate to joke about raping each other? There is no one else listening in on the discussion anyway, so if I and my friend joke about raping each other, and we are both ok with those kind of jokes, who are we offending? The millions of people, that aren't listening to our conversations and will never know about them anyway?

[Gamdwelf]

How so? Men get along better with men, women get along better with women. That's why most men have mostly male friends and most women have mostly female friends. I have female acquaintences, but none I would call friends. Most women I've met in my life just don't share the same interests as me. With my male friends I can talk about politics and philosophy, videogames and TV shows and movies... and porn. And women in general. With women, if you talk politics it's mostly leftist shit. If you talk about videogames, shows or movies, it's usually just very shallow. Like they are into shit like, how their gear looks like in games like WoW, transmog, how pretty Jaina is, how she's a really stronk womyn, how handsome Chris Pine is. And then you have to listen to their gossip. It just doesn't work. You'd have to be friends with a lesbian. If you can find one that doesn't hate men.


Because adults like grabbing each other's crotch? If you don't you're a child, I guess.



Yeah joking about raping each other with you male friends is inappropriate and immature, but grabbing each other's cocks is what real gentlemen do, and not gay at all.

Why would it be inappropriate to joke about raping each other? There is no one else listening in on the discussion anyway, so if I and my friend joke about raping each other, and we are both ok with those kind of jokes, who are we offending? The millions of people, that aren't listening to our conversations and will never know about them anyway?

I'm a man and I generally get along better with women.

Where is your god now?

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I'm a man and I generally get along better with women.

Oh. I see. I wasn't expecting that. I take everything back then.

[anyaka21]

Personally, I think just about everyone has been harassed, either physically, sexually, or verbally, and that's regardless of gender.

Hollywood is just the tip of the iceberg.

My issue though is that this seems have transformed from Harvey to all men pretty quickly. And as thus, this has become a way to freely male-bash, and with that, the thought that all men are predators.

I would say that almost everyone has done or said something completely inappropriate, made an unwanted advance, etc... in their lives.

I'm not saying that this is okay or that we just need to get over it. But women also need to be aware that they do it too.

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I would say in terms of Hollywood, it's pervasive. It's pretty much in it's culture. Harvey was just the beginning, if reporters want to keep digging. But without people naming names, or too afraid to name names, then this will just be all put on Weinstein and then the story dies, and Hollywood feels a sigh of relief, and a year from now, it all goes back to the way it was.

Hollywood is and always has been about looks and beauty and the physical. And as long as you have people willing to do just about anything for fame and fortune, there will always be a casting couch. It might not be as pervasive as it once was, but as long as you have people who will willingly go down on someone for a movie role, this will never end.

[crewskater]

I'm a man and I generally get along better with women.

Where is your god now?

Your exception doesn't negate the rule.

[Ellarielle]

I'm a man and I generally get along better with women.

Where is your god now?

I'm a woman and I generally get along with men better and I also think that is true for a lot of other women too. I've generally always had more male friends than female friends. I also play games though... so that probably attributes to that.

[bewbew]

Yes, if it could cause him to become pregnant while he doesn't want to become pregnant.

That is a non-argument.

Orgasming, and thus ejaculating, is a consequence of sex.

If you don't expect your partner to orgasm inside you, do not consent to sex.

The fact that one can get pregnant or not from the act is irrelevant.

You consented to the act, in which orgasm is an integral part that cannot be removed from the equation just "Because my body my rules!".

Your argument is even more ridiculous because it also assumes that, in case he does as she commands, then there is no risk of pregnancy. Did you miss your biology classes and still think pulling out is an effective contraceptive method?

[StayTuned]

I got pinched in the butt by a stranger in a club once

#Metoo?

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What's with the amount of retarded arguments going on? I'm beginning to think MMOC is full of sexually frustrated men (and before you spout GENDER notice how it's all men bringing up women in a negative way to begin with) -sigh-

[StayTuned]

What's with the amount of retarded arguments going on? I'm beginning to think MMOC is full of sexually frustrated men (and before you spout GENDER notice how it's all men bringing up women in a negative way to begin with) -sigh-

Well wtf do you expect. It is generally known that rape is bad.

Like the hell is there to discuss other than how stupid #metoo is? People post it now regardless of whether it's true or not just because it's the thing to do right now.

Tomorrow nobody will remember yet another day fly of the internet.

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Like the hell is there to discuss other than how stupid #metoo is? People post it now regardless of whether it's true or not just because it's the thing to do right now.

Tomorrow nobody will remember yet another day fly of the internet.

Evidence of this?

I know plenty of genuine doing it, not everybody is cynical. Posting shite like "Touched on the ear #MeToo" is not only undermining the genuine but mocking them too! It also highlights why so many don't report it because of idiots immediately dismissing it off like people here are doing

[StayTuned]

Evidence of this?

I know plenty of genuine doing it, not everybody is cynical. Posting shite like "Touched on the ear #MeToo" is not only undermining the genuine but mocking them too! It also highlights why so many don't report it because of idiots immediately dismissing it off like people here are doing

Evidence to the contrary? Do you just blindly believe what people post on Social Lies? I mean, Media?

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Evidence to the contrary? Do you just blindly believe what people post on Social Lies? I mean, Media?

I believe a minority are using it to BS

[StayTuned]

I believe a minority are using it to BS

I honestly think it's the majority. I have absolutely zero faith in Social Media and their users. It was low when it started and quickly hit rock bottom.

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I honestly think it's the majority. I have absolutely zero faith in Social Media and their users. It was low when it started and quickly hit rock bottom.

We'll just have to agree to disagree

[Ellarielle]

It's really hard to say, but I think the problem with the metoo campaign is there isn't any break out of severity. I'm not saying that something "minor" like butt-grabbing is ok or acceptable, but it's really hard for me to compare getting my butt grabbed in a pool to someone who was actually raped. I really don't think they're the same thing. The impact on my life from a butt-grabbing incident is pretty much non-existent, but I'd guess someone being raped is going to have a pretty big psychological effect on that person's life and it will be someone they deal with their entire life.

[Lucavian]

It's really hard to say, but I think the problem with the metoo campaign is there isn't any break out of severity. I'm not saying that something "minor" like butt-grabbing is ok or acceptable, but it's really hard for me to compare getting my butt grabbed in a pool to someone who was actually raped. I really don't think they're the same thing. The impact on my life from a butt-grabbing incident is pretty much non-existent, but I'd guess someone being raped is going to have a pretty big psychological affect on that person's life and it will be someone they deal with their entire life.

What's worse is the people just in it for attention. I read one story where the women essentially said the guy asked her to be his girlfriend and she knew he was married and was "kind of creeped out" by it. I'm sorry, but that's not harassment in the slightest. Creepy? Sure. But it's not harassment on the level of groping and certainly not on the level of rape.

[Jyggalag]

Genuinely impressed with any young person that has the courage to do this. Be a lot of immature people that could potentially cause a lot of harm knowing this information. I'd imagine for a young man trying to convey masculinity that admitting you were abused when vulnerable can be a stomach wrenching experience. Fair play. Anyone making it up is human garbage. This is too serious to be padded out of proportion with lies, and will only take away from those genuinely effected.