1. #1741
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Once again, that doesn't make what this campaign did routine, since it's two different things entirely.

    These were meetings that were specifically designed to be clandestine, which was pointed out in the indictment and testimony, and they lied about them... which constituted a crime. You have multiple members of the Trump campaign hiding and lying about meetings that you claim to be routine. Let me know when you figure out the disconnect with your attempted argument. I'll make it simple. If it's routine, then there isn't a reason to commit crimes in order to hide it.

    It is different, and it is not normal. Let me know when you can point to all those other "normal" presidential campaigns that did it.
    You keep saying "they lied about [the meetings]" and "multiple members [lying] about meetings". Wasn't it just Papadopoulos?

  2. #1742
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    You keep saying "they lied about [the meetings]" and "multiple members [lying] about meetings". Wasn't it just Papadopoulos?
    No. Sessions, kushner, jr all come to mind about lying about meetings they've had with russians.
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  3. #1743
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    You keep saying "they lied about [the meetings]" and "multiple members [lying] about meetings". Wasn't it just Papadopoulos?
    This is basically the God of the Gaps argument at this point.
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  4. #1744
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    Actually nobody is important in the world, but yes I think highly of my cunning intelligence.
    Yea, well obliviousness is a virtue I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    BTW, in all this, are we forgetting kushner trying to use the russian embassy to set up a private messaging system for the trump campaign?

    Edit: Figured I'd include a source.
    I'm sure Mueller hasn't forgotten... He's working from the bottom on up. Who's next? Stay tuned for more!

  6. #1746
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    You keep saying "they lied about [the meetings]" and "multiple members [lying] about meetings". Wasn't it just Papadopoulos?
    Nope. Sessions "omitted" mentioning meetings. Flynn lied. Page lied. Kushner lied. Manafort lied. Trump jr. lied.

    If all of this was routine and normal, why did every one of them lie?

    Now, since you still want to say all of this was routine and normal, point to all the other presidential campaigns that did this.

  7. #1747
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    No. Sessions, kushner, jr all come to mind about lying about meetings they've had with russians.
    Well I'm trying to keep this specifically within the scope of this thread, and what can be proven. There are multiple interpretations of those separate events, but the issue at hand are these indictments.

  8. #1748
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    Well I'm trying to keep this specifically within the scope of this thread, and what can be proven. There are multiple interpretations of those separate events, but the issue at hand are these indictments.
    That is in the scope of this thread. It is proven, since they've publicly admitted to it.
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  9. #1749
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    That is in the scope of this thread. It is proven, since they've publicly admitted to it.
    Sessions was a smear, Trump Jr. was bad, Manafort has nothing to do with collusion, which is all I'm talking about here.

  10. #1750
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    Well I'm trying to keep this specifically within the scope of this thread, and what can be proven. There are multiple interpretations of those separate events, but the issue at hand are these indictments.
    There are multiple interpretations....

    Which of them make sense or are at least somewhat logical again? The "adoptions" one? Is that what passes in Trumpeteer Land?

  11. #1751
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    Sessions was a smear, Kushner was bad, Manafort has nothing to do with collusion, which is all I'm talking about here.
    If you only look at the 1 in the equation 1+2=3 you're bad at math. How do you think that relates to the discussion we're having now?
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  12. #1752
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    If you only look at the 1 in the equation 1+2=3 you're bad at math. How do you think that relates to the discussion we're having now?
    Well we'll just have to wait for more info. It's entirely possible that it all comes crumbling down, I'd never claim otherwise. In the coming days or weeks we could find ourselves looking at Trump apologizing to America, it's entirely on the table at this point. I gotta head off to bed though.

  13. #1753
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    Well we'll just have to wait for more info. It's entirely possible that it all comes crumbling down, I'd never claim otherwise. In the coming days or weeks we could find ourselves looking at Trump apologizing to America, it's entirely on the table at this point. I gotta head off to bed though.
    Jr's email alone hangs them after this.
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  14. #1754
    Quote Originally Posted by mage21 View Post
    Well we'll just have to wait for more info. It's entirely possible that it all comes crumbling down, I'd never claim otherwise. In the coming days or weeks we could find ourselves looking at Trump apologizing to America, it's entirely on the table at this point. I gotta head off to bed though.
    I'm still waiting for you to show me those other presidential campaigns that did the same routine, normal things as the Trump campaign did. It's almost as if you don't have an answer, and you are dodging.

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  16. #1756
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to show me those other presidential campaigns that did the same routine, normal things as the Trump campaign did. It's almost as if you don't have an answer, and you are dodging.
    You're not going to get it. They're "going to bed," AKA getting on another account because everyone realized what a joke this one was.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

  17. #1757
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    You're not going to get it. They're "going to bed," AKA getting on another account because everyone realized what a joke this one was.
    I still want to see some posters on this thread. specially one from sweden, another one that starts with R and is like an angry conservative caricature, and other who's called like a tea
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



  18. #1758
    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    I still want to see some posters on this thread. specially one from sweden, another one that starts with R and is like an angry conservative caricature, and other who's called like a tea
    Ransath and SlimJimblahblahblah.

    Can I claim my prize now?
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post


    Words well said.
    Given that the job was to sell out the US to Putin she's technically not wrong.

  20. #1760
    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Ransath and SlimJimblahblahblah.

    Can I claim my prize now?
    you forgot oorlong lol but yeah, i'm anxiously awaiting them
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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