Originally Posted by
Hitei
I use stealth all the time now. It is amazing for zipping through areas of Argus, and was even better in combination with sap in Suramar--in fact. Suramar alone made far more use of the rogue tool kit, between stealth, sap and grappling hook, than basically anything besides the Fangs of the Father quest line, or the rogue artifact/class hall quests.
I completely disagree. The pacing was awful and immersion breaking. There was nothing difficult or special about hitting sap (I literally use sap constantly when navigating tight spaces or dealing with elites, or when I see a friendly target riding my direction towards a mob, or in a dozen other situations--so this isn't something that's gone). What about Vanilla pacing was "sensible" or immersive?
"Hey there group of enemies, I'm just going to drag one of you away from camp and fight him, and since he happened to crit me twice and I'm now below half health, I'm just going to sit here next to your camp and stuff my face full of banana bread to heal. You just hang out there for 20 seconds while I stare at my computer screen and really feel that RAW RPG immersion."
Don't be deliberately obtuse. "Buying items" isn't busywork. Stopping by a vendor to buy 100 of an item that you then completely disregard because you need it to use an ability is absolutely busywork. Having to go to a vendor, buy a bunch of one ingredient and a bunch of another ingredient and then hit craft all and afk for a couple minutes to restock on poisons was busywork. "There's busywork now too!" Isn't a good reason to bring back crappy old busywork too.
You do pool resources if you are playing most classes to their full efficiency. I wouldn't bring up Wrath as a good model of class design when it was an expansion where many of the melee DPS specs were literally "Hit whatever is up". Every expansion gets some class elements right and some wrong, and even those are highly subjective. There are a lot of people who really enjoy current demo. There are a lot of people who detest it.