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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fiend View Post
    Yes it does. Britain has the NHS, this does not mean we are a Socialist country. We have never been a Socialist country.
    ofc you are not. but many Scandinavian countries aren't calling themselves as socialists but in many cases they are, they difference between poor and rich much smaller then in usa.

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    If you're just gonna make news questions and give the answers each time you're proved wrong why do you come here at all ?
    Welcome to how Communism works.

    "Just make something up to excuse the failure"

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    What happened in the 60's for the beehives to lose 1.5M? that's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bison91 View Post
    ofc you are not. but many Scandinavian countries aren't calling themselves as socialists but in many cases they are, they difference between poor and rich much smaller then in usa.
    Except they're not, See, you don't understand what socialism is.

    "Difference between rich and Poor" being smaller isn't fucking Socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fiend View Post
    That's so wrong I wish I could slap you through the screen right now.

    They use Russian rockets because they are cheap and disposable, not the Best.
    lol such a nice freedom of speech you got there, you are less democrat then me... though doubt that you would go unpunished after the slap hehe.

    why would you use cheap Russian junk in that way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bison91 View Post
    lol such a nice freedom of speech you got there, you are less democrat then me... though doubt that you would go unpunished after the slap hehe.

    why would you use cheap Russian junk in that way...
    Because it's more cost effective for constant flights to the ISS than expensive American models.

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    Why do people still blame free market for every problem on earth, when free market isnt a thing since... err, 1900 and something ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fiend View Post
    Except they're not, See, you don't understand what socialism is.

    "Difference between rich and Poor" being smaller isn't fucking Socialism.
    it is... partly, one of its values is being equal. while communism has a radical equality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igualitarist View Post
    Why do people still blame free market for every problem on earth, when free market isnt a thing since... err, 1900 and something ?
    who says something bad about free market at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fiend View Post
    Because it's more cost effective for constant flights to the ISS than expensive American models.
    ergo: it's the best... when price is a factor.
    If you knew the candle was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beardless Man View Post
    Not exactly what you're trying to prove here with bee deaths, wages, and global warming. This looks like an utter garbage attempt to try and look smart while you provided logistically no proof.

    Capitalism isn't the cause of bee death. That is poor air quality and pesticides on plants/flowers.
    Capitalism isn't the cause of poor air quality; that is pollution and lack of care in eco-friendly waste removal/recycling.

    Hell, even capitalism doesn't have a direct impact on wages earned per productivity. That's just businesses deciding their own model. Whether that graph is the closest to any merit is beyond me.
    Actually, that's where you're wrong kiddo. Poor air quality and pesticides on plants and flowers is a direct result of corporations using every little trick in the book to remain as profitable as possible within the current regulative guidelines and laws.

    That's actually what regulations and guidelines are for, a corporation to retain profitability while also ensuring that its practices don't overtly negatively affect their neighbors and the environment.

    Now try asking what a conservative thinks regulations are for.
    There is absolutely no basis for individual rights to firearms or self defense under any contextual interpretation of the second amendment of the United States Constitution. It defines clearly a militia of which is regulated of the people and arms, for the expressed purpose of protection of the free state. Unwillingness to take in even the most basic and whole context of these laws is exactly the road to anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bison91 View Post
    it is... partly, one of its values is being equal. while communism has a radical equality.
    That's not the core of Socialism at all, Socialism is about ENFORCING the Equality. The Nordic model does not force anything, it merely provides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blamblam41 View Post
    Actually, that's where you're wrong kiddo. Poor air quality and pesticides on plants and flowers is a direct result of corporations using every little trick in the book to remain as profitable as possible within the current regulative guidelines and laws.

    That's actually what regulations and guidelines are for, a corporation to retain profitability while also ensuring that its practices don't overtly negatively affect their neighbors and the environment.

    Now try asking what a conservative thinks regulations are for.
    Don't call people a kiddo when your opinion sounds like a 14 year old Democrat from Cali.

    Here is a hint: Capitalists are not the only ones who use Insecticides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bison91 View Post
    it is... partly, one of its values is being equal. while communism has a radical equality.

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    who says something bad about free market at all...
    What are capitalisms values, then? Oh right, vast wealth inequality.
    There is absolutely no basis for individual rights to firearms or self defense under any contextual interpretation of the second amendment of the United States Constitution. It defines clearly a militia of which is regulated of the people and arms, for the expressed purpose of protection of the free state. Unwillingness to take in even the most basic and whole context of these laws is exactly the road to anarchy.

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    "system that relies on infinite growth in a planet with finite ressources."
    We will be forced to move outside our planet to grow further, sparking massive technological advancement.
    You don't seem to understand how capitalism sparks innovation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fiend View Post
    That's not the core of Socialism at all, Socialism is about ENFORCING the Equality. The Nordic model does not force anything, it merely provides.

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    Don't call people a kiddo when your opinion sounds like a 14 year old Democrat from Cali.

    Here is a hint: Capitalists are not the only ones who use Insecticides.
    Here is a hint: Corporations MAKE insecticides.

    Are you fucking stupid? It's almost as if you took what I said, forgot about what I said and then made a quip about democrats from Cali and my age.
    There is absolutely no basis for individual rights to firearms or self defense under any contextual interpretation of the second amendment of the United States Constitution. It defines clearly a militia of which is regulated of the people and arms, for the expressed purpose of protection of the free state. Unwillingness to take in even the most basic and whole context of these laws is exactly the road to anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blamblam41 View Post
    Here is a hint: Corporations MAKE insecticides.

    Are you fucking stupid?
    Here is another Hint: Socialists still make insecticides.

    Don't call people stupid when you look worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fiend View Post
    That's not the core of Socialism at all, Socialism is about ENFORCING the Equality. The Nordic model does not force anything, it merely provides.

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    Don't call people a kiddo when your opinion sounds like a 14 year old Democrat from Cali.

    Here is a hint: Capitalists are not the only ones who use Insecticides.
    communism is enforcing... socialism isn't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daethz View Post
    "system that relies on infinite growth in a planet with finite ressources."
    We will be forced to move outside our planet to grow further, sparking massive technological advancement.
    You don't seem to understand how capitalism sparks innovation.
    Still waiting on that vast innovation.

    Oh wait, except that it's extremely hard to innovate space travel when being outside of the planets range of gravity causes advanced health problems we are just barely scratching the surface about ranging from lonely crazy space sickness to heart failure to fucking blindness.

    And you think "let's just have science fix all that" when we could just let science moderate the resources of our planet so we don't have generations of mutant children born in space. (And I say mutant and mean it literally, because a pregnancy in space would be -UGLY-. And then you have the problems with morality and space mutant abortion.)
    There is absolutely no basis for individual rights to firearms or self defense under any contextual interpretation of the second amendment of the United States Constitution. It defines clearly a militia of which is regulated of the people and arms, for the expressed purpose of protection of the free state. Unwillingness to take in even the most basic and whole context of these laws is exactly the road to anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bison91 View Post
    communism is enforcing... socialism isn't...
    shh, he's adamant he's got everything figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blamblam41 View Post
    What are capitalisms values, then? Oh right, vast wealth inequality.
    Capital: growing you capital in any possible way. anything is done is to increase your capital. u know George Soros? he says things pretty clearly but his videos are constantly removed so that it wont hurt his image...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blamblam41 View Post
    Here is a hint: Corporations MAKE insecticides.
    Corporations make insecticides in capitalistic countries.
    The state need makes insecticides in socialistic countries in order to avoid starvation. They usually fail, or try to reinvent genetics (see Lysenko) and fail in that as well.

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