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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromedes View Post


    Void elves are just purple/pale elves.. That didnt stop them being playable on the different faction.
    That you ignore presence of high elves in lore isnt our fault and you should update your knowledge.
    Try again.

    Even the official description of Void Elves states they are able to transform themselves. So instead of having the same race of elf with 2 different names, we have a completely new kind of elf. Sounds familiar? A playable race that can transform?

    Worgen are just humans who can become wolves also... that also didn't stop them from being playable... let alone on the SAME faction.

    Nobody is ignoring the presence of High Elves... why the hell, to this day, do we still HAVE debates about High Elves being playable?
    What people fail to grasp is that there is no distinction between "high" elves and "blood" elves that translates into the gameplay other than their eye color. People only literally want to play a Blood Elf modeled race on the Alliance faction. That is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    I've tons of good reasons for opposition. Always have. Have had thread after thread on this subject for years.

    It's your side that has zero reasons for this inane persistance. You got a Thalassian Elf playable on the Alliance!

    But now that you have it you should be grateful. And the sheer ingratitude that after finally getting the model you have the temerity to still complain and moan and weep that it just isn't good enough and you plan to continue this moaning campaign because you've somehow convinced yourself that moaning got you Void Elves so that even more moaning will surely get you High Elves is sad and pathetic.

    The race is playable. Has always been playable. You made the choice not to play it because you decided to wait in the hope that one day blizzard would allow you to recreate your lord of the rings fantasy in WOW. That's not our fault. If you want to spend the rest of WoW waiting for High Elves, be our guest. You'll wait in vain.
    Fun thing is, even if Blizzard gave High Elves to the Alliance, people would still scream because Quel'thalas would still be Horde territory. So the next thing they would ask for would be to conquer it for the Alliance (even moreso now with that whole BfA premise).

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    To me, watching Ion's comments and interviews on the subject, it has got to be frustrating for them to keep having to shut down High elves, and re-explain themselves.

    High Elves stopped being a thing in Warcraft 3, when the entire people, barring a few stragglers here and there, were renamed Blood Elves. They are the same race, renamed, with a different eye color due to tapping Fel energies in WC3 TFT and TBC (having since stopped with the reignition of the Sunwell).

    Ion says it best when High elves as a people, as a culture, have been assimilated into other cultures. They are, to him, and to most learned people, gone. There are no major hubs or groups of High Elves left to pull PC adventurers from.

    Void Elves going forward are going to be the closest the Alliance will ever get, at least in World of Warcraft's timeline. And aside from the vocal outraged High Elf diehard fanboys that I know will never truly vanish, the majority of the Alliance would be pretty upset if one of their 3 "new" Allied races was wasted on plain recolored Blood Elf. At least they are tying in some unique flavor to Void Elf, and giving back Alleria, who seems pretty awesome, while finally allowing Alliance to use the Blood Elf model in some fashion.

    I think anyone upset still at this point should just model edit or something, because it would be so much easier than trying to convince WoW's own developers/directors, that High Elves are somehow different enough from Blood Elves to warrant separate inclusion, when they are simply not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangris View Post
    Fun thing is, even if Blizzard gave High Elves to the Alliance, people would still scream because Quel'thalas would still be Horde territory. So the next thing they would ask for would be to conquer it for the Alliance (even moreso now with that whole BfA premise).
    That would betray the point of High Elves.
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    I would love for some highelves on Alliance that wern't void elves. Beggers can't be choosers I guess.

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    Give us humans with red eyes aka nathanos and you can have your blood i mean high elves
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    I wanted high elves at first, but I personally think void elves are even cooler anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptoriana View Post
    im hoping high elves fall into the "more at a later date"

    I really want to make a high elf
    Nope. He quite in the OP was from Ion so don't count on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowestFormOfWit View Post
    High Elves stopped being a thing in Warcraft 3, when the entire people, barring a few stragglers here and there, were renamed Blood Elves. They are the same race, renamed, with a different eye color due to tapping Fel energies in WC3 TFT and TBC (having since stopped with the reignition of the Sunwell).

    Ion says it best when High elves as a people, as a culture, have been assimilated into other cultures. They are, to him, and to most learned people, gone. There are no major hubs or groups of High Elves left to pull PC adventurers from.
    It's funny when people use the numbers argument against High Elves, when you consider that 'Void Elves' are actually just a small number of the already few High Elves.

    Doesn't really make sense, does it? Why not just give us all the High Elves?

    EDIT: Also worth mentioning that the "High Elves and Blood Elves are too similar!" argument went out the window with Pandaren. You can have an Alliance and Horde Pandaren who are completely identical.
    Last edited by Austilias; 2017-11-09 at 09:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    It's funny when people use the numbers argument against High Elves, when you consider that 'Void Elves' are actually just a small number of the already few High Elves.

    Doesn't really make sense, does it? Why not just give us all the High Elves?

    EDIT: Also worth mentioning that the "High Elves and Blood Elves are too similar!" argument went out the window with Pandaren. You can have an Alliance and Horde Pandaren who are completely identical.
    Because all the players who don't froth at the mouth over High Elves (read: most of the game's population) would be highly annoyed with getting literally blood elves as a race while the Horde get actual things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Because all the players who don't froth at the mouth over High Elves (read: most of the game's population) would be highly annoyed with getting literally blood elves as a race while the Horde get actual things.
    Recolored night elf in fancy armor = actual thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Because all the players who don't froth at the mouth over High Elves (read: most of the game's population) would be highly annoyed with getting literally blood elves as a race while the Horde get actual things.
    People don't seem that upset that you can have identical Pandaren on both factions. Strange.

    Even if you were to take that point, I have yet to see any real enthusiasm for Void Elves - and understandably so, because they're frankly ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromedes View Post
    Recolored night elf in fancy armor = actual thing
    Yeah and you got Void Elves as your version of that, so that's an equivalent exchange apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    People don't seem that upset that you can have identical Pandaren on both factions. Strange.

    Even if you were to take that point, I have yet to see any real enthusiasm for Void Elves - and understandably so, because they're frankly ridiculous.
    Because Pandaren were designed to be neutral. Blood Elves were not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austilias View Post
    People don't seem that upset that you can have identical Pandaren on both factions. Strange.

    Even if you were to take that point, I have yet to see any real enthusiasm for Void Elves - and understandably so, because they're frankly ridiculous.
    Pandaren were a new race for both factions. Not a copy paste from one faction to the other, where the only difference is eye color. I've seen quite a bit of buzz about Void Elves.

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    At this point I am becoming petty enough to enjoy the fact that you whiny zealots are never ever getting your precious little High Elves. Move on already. Jesus Christ you lot are like those spoiled rich kids who get the wrong coloured Mercedes from their daddy.

    For years you cried about High Elves. Basically wanting Blood Elves, a Horde race, without having to play Horde. And now you are actually getting the freaking Blood Elf models and it's not enough.

    Blood Elves are the original High Elves of Quel'thalas who renamed them selves. They are literally the same people with a different name. Play Horde if you like the Thallassian lore and feel so much. QQ more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyomesh View Post
    At this point I am becoming petty enough to enjoy the fact that you whiny zealots are never ever getting your precious little High Elves. Move on already. Jesus Christ you lot are like those spoiled rich kids who get the wrong coloured Mercedes from their daddy.

    For years you cried about High Elves. Basically wanting Blood Elves, a Horde race, without having to play Horde. And now you are actually getting the freaking Blood Elf models and it's not enough.

    Blood Elves are the original High Elves of Quel'thalas who renamed them selves. They are literally the same people with a different name. Play Horde if you like the Thallassian lore and feel so much. QQ more
    You know shit what high elf fans wanted and what high elf race represents. You dont have to attend any more of these threads, thats beauty of it, and would be better for both sides.

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    The Nightborne and Zandalari trolls are extremely "potent" additions and Alliance counterparts can't compare. All three Alliance additions are already existing models that have literally recieved only a paintjob. This is why Blizzard should've gone with giving high elves in the way they were always known in the Alliance as it would be able to at least in some form mitigate the Horde additions. The high elves would be an addition that would be extremely popular among those that already play on the Alliance side of things.

    All this time it was said that there is too little difference between the Horde's blood elves and the Alliance's high elves to make the latter playable and as a result the Alliance got three races which are all models of already existing races. The reasoning for not adding high elves resulted in adding three races that all fall under the same category as the high elves do.
    Last edited by Magnagarde; 2017-11-09 at 10:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    The Nightborne and Zandalari trolls are extremely "potent" additions and void elves, Lightforged draenei and DI dwarves can't compare.

    All three Alliance additions are already existing models that have literally recieved only a paintjob. This is why Blizzard should've gone with giving high elves in the way they were always known in the Alliance as it would be able to at least in some form mitigate the Horde additions.
    So your solution is to get an existing model that has NO paintjob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    So your solution is to get an existing model that has NO paintjob?
    Yes, because it would at least compensate through its high demand, unlike the additions that the Alliance is actually getting.

    People would get over this fact because at least they'd play something they've wanted to see for a long time. This way they got two out of three things nobody really wanted, with the third one(DI dwarves) being the only thing people have wanted for a long time that is a copied model anyway.

    The result is three allied races with already existing models, with only one being something people showed any desire for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromedes View Post
    You know shit what high elf fans wanted and what high elf race represents. You dont have to attend any more of these threads, thats beauty of it, and would be better for both sides.
    Enough of this. Anyone who disagrees with you, you to tell to shut up or get out of the thread.

    If you can't handle the opposition to your planet sized entitlement then perhaps you are the one who needs a time out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Yes, because it would at least compensate through its high demand, unlike the additions that the Alliance is actually getting.
    You got void elves. That was a race specifically created to meet this demand. You had the game director openly snigger when asked about High Elves and he confirmed what we have been saying for a decade, High Elves are Blood Elves are therefore playable.

    Your current strategy is, as several have admitted, to whine for long enough that Blizzard gives in to shut you up.

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