Brexit 'bombshell' for UK's European Capital of Culture 2023 plans

[Noradin]

"This is despite the fact that cities in Europe that are outside the European Union have participated in the scheme historically."

Only those who expressed a wish to join the EU and were potential candidates--which the UK isn't.
The UK is the opposite.

[Deleted]

seems they were not interested in anything.

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UK could have sought a soft brexit, thus keep their spot in CoC event.

They would have still been kicked out, outsiders are not welcome at EU events because they are EU only.

[Noradin]

The issue is that A. the decision was made before Brexit and B. they have waited almost 18 months to say anything. Either they should've allowed it due to the decision occurring before Brexit or announce that Brexit would immediately invalidate this in 2016

That's because the UK didn't communicate if it wanted to stay in the EFTA or EEA.
Not the EU's fault that the UK government cannot make up its mind and still drags its feet.

[Linkedblade]

That is at the very least laughable.

Not even mentioning the policies Britain has historically chosen to follow over its lifespan, the country was always considered to be very close to the US, and many-a-time opt for the US side of things than the European one. That alone had earned the country a reputation amongst every European in the Union, at least anyone interested enough to look up these facts.

Britain decided to betray all of Europe, spat on everyone's face, broke apart the vision all of Europe stood for after the 2nd WW, for a united & peaceful Europe and now Britain expects anything else other than spite?

Do you realise what the UK has achieved with this decision? Even at least historically? Do you realise the magnitude of betrayal the country has displayed to all other countries of the Union? I am deeply European since my early teens, and that has been over a decade now, and I could not believe my ears when the result of the British Referendum was announced. I feel incredibly sorry for everyone that voted Remain, being trapped in a country that does not allow them to be Europeans.

The country simply went traitor to every European's beliefs, visions and expectations of integrity.

Yeah except the EU literally goes against any values that you proclaim it does.

[Noradin]

What about Greece? We elected to stay and defend our European ideals, no matter what our country is going through. Much better than being caught up in ourselves enough to elect to leave because we thought that we will do better alone, betraying everyone else that has helped us, including Britain, in the process.

As many top European politicians have said, including Emmanuel Macron, Greece is Europe. My country stands in a much better position that Britain.

And Greece should be considered as alternative to the UK to host this, Greek cities could use the economic windfall that comes with hosting this event, I'm just not sure if they can handle selection process at present.

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I'm not entering this pointless discussion

You just did by commenting on it.

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I didn't know geographical designations fund projects! So the earth is sentient and has bank accounts?

Of course, it has a lot of gold securely hidden away in deep caverns in the Swiss Alps.

[Linkedblade]

It's disgusting to people support a regime like the EU. You're practically supporting Nazis. They only want to have autonomy over Europe and force their socialist policies on everyone. How terrible is it that the UK wants their own sovereignty? How does that betray the vision of a peaceful Europe?

[dejec1989]

I have read most of the posts in this thread and I agree, UK is not going to be a part of the EU by that time, fair enough give it to someone else, to everyone else using this thread to bitch about the UK leaving the EU, go put a pair of big boy pants on and learn to not have a fucking tantrum when your toy falls out the crib.

[Noradin]

I live in a city that was recently the European City of Culture, and frankly it made no difference aside from some new incredibly ugly buildings.

That is unfortunate, previous cities got a lot of benefits out of this institution.

[Obelisk Kai]

It’s called Northern Ireland, unless you are referring to the Northern part of the RoI.

Yeah anyone willing to split hairs on that is very aware of what the north of Ireland is and why I refer to it as such. Put aside the faux outrage and focus on some real issues ok?

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Gonna have to stop you there, ever since devolution Wales has been run by Labour (and run right into the ground no less) no matter how much all my idiot friends liek to blame the tories for Wales' woes it's all 100% on the Labour Party.

Fair enough, the party of England. Wales still voted for Brexit though and deserves what is about to hit them, just like England. It's the Scots I feel the worst for. Kept in the Union through loads of lies and then tossed aside once they fell for it.

They had the sense to vote remain too.

[ranzino]

They would have still been kicked out, outsiders are not welcome at EU events because they are EU only.

as example EEA members are qualified, thus Rejkjavik/Iceland was CoC in 2000. future EU members also, Novi Sad of Serbia will host CoC in 2021.

[RobertMugabe]

What's the point about this thread? You need to be an EU/EEA member or canditate for in order to get a CoC. The UK won't be a part of the EU soon, so that's logical.

[Obelisk Kai]

That is unfortunate, previous cities got a lot of benefits out of this institution.

The entire UK got a lot of benefit out being in the EU. The saddest comment I found on Brexit was Roger Daltrey's

"Whatever happens our country should never fear the consequences of leaving.

We went into the Common Market in 1973. Do you know what was going on before we went in?

It was the 1960s.

The most exciting time ever - Britain was Swinging.

Films, Theatre, Fashion, Art and Music.

We were the World leaders.

You had Harold Pinter, The Beatles, John Osborne, Mary Quant, The Stones, Queen... and The Who.

This was all before we joined the EU. We were just Kids but we were filling stadiums all round the World.

Britain was the centre of the World."

That right there is the tragedy of Brexit. A bunch of old farts trying to recapture lost glories and return to an imagined time when everything is better.

Well when Brexit comes it won't be the fucking 1960s and Britain will be quite far from the centre of the world.

[Noradin]

It’s called Northern Ireland, unless you are referring to the Northern part of the RoI.

Yes, Northern Ireland is part of the north of Ireland(geographical term).

[Obelisk Kai]

What's the point about this thread? You need to be an EU/EEA member or canditate for in order get this title. The UK won't be none of that after 2019.

It's just more 'have your cake and eat it' idiocy. When they say 'Brexit means Brexit' what they meant was 'All of the benefits, none of the responsibilities'. The EU however is adamant that Brexit does in fact mean Brexit.

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Yes, Northern Ireland is part of the north of Ireland(geographical term).

He knows what he is doing with that.

[Noradin]

UK could have sought a soft brexit, thus keep their spot in CoC event.

Yes, thus the wait.
But now that time is probably too short to get a deal going before they leave going by the progress they made till now it would be stupid to not raise the question who might host this event instead since it is unlikely that the UK will meet the requirements.

[Aeula]

How so?
The UK withdrew when they handed in their Article 50 letter, there really isn't any reason to make them withdraw from every little thing seperately when it is clear to everyone that they volunarily won't meet the requirements anymore.

Regarding the EU: well, they need to decide on another nation quickly so that said nation will have enough time to decide on one of their cities but it is understandable that they have other things to worry about. Regrettable but understandable.

Erm... are you sure you're replying to the right person?

What I meant was that if they were going to exclude us from the event they should have let us know before our cities started wasting money and time on it.

[ranzino]

Yes, thus the wait.
But now that time is probably too short to get a deal going before they leave going by the progress they made till now it would be stupid to not raise the question who might host this event instead since it is unlikely that the UK will meet the requirements.

Unless they gather all their courage and cancel the silly attempt aka "Exit from Brexit"

[Noradin]

The EU is a joke. Of course they're gonna try to fuck over the UK for leaving their club.

Its more like the UK fucked over the EU, because the EU has now to find a new host on short notice after the UK dragged their feet about communicating what they wanted out of Brexit. They still didn't present a serious proposal beyond "Let's be creative and flexible".

[ranzino]

Erm... are you sure you're replying to the right person?

What I meant was that if they were going to exclude us from the event they should have let us know before our cities started wasting money and time on it.

sorry, UK excluded itself some time ago.

[Noradin]

The entire UK got a lot of benefit out being in the EU.
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My reference was meant towards the European Capital of Culture.