Are lootboxes gambling & should games be regulated. BF2 and OW under investigation

[draykorinee]

If loot boxes are gambling then I would say secret santa for a company office is as well. You might have a policy of draw a name and get them like a 15$ or more gift. Sometimes you might get some holiday socks from a coworker others you might get a new blender worth much more. The thing is you get a gift no matter what and just dont know whats inside.

If there was an award for worst analogy on the internet this year, you'd be up for the running.

[Orange Joe]

But the lootbox works exactly the same. Still it prey on our psyche. Still it is designed to prey on people who are insecure, who have gambling problems etc.

You should really look into market research in general if you think only lootboxes do this. You are in for a rude awaking.


Anyone that is trying to sell you anything is doing anything they can to take advantage of you to sell their product.

[Yunru]

Yeah.....

Ea does it again.

[dope_danny]

so now puzzle and dragons has removed all in app purchases in the eu version apropos of nothing.

Dominos might be starting to tumble.

[Yunru]

Are lootboxes still fine after you watch this video;

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Well it isn't. Since with Gambling the "risky" action is coming out of it with nothing. Blizzard will likely argue that due to the fact you ALWAYS get a prize in every box it isn't constituted as Gambling and is more along the lines of a Random item Prize. Which is what generally covers TCG's and CCG's since you ALWAYS get something in return.

If I gamble on a Horse, the horse can lose and I lose money.
If I gamble on a Lootbox, I may not get the Item I *want* but I still get an Item.

So if you got a lets say gambled on a horse, lost and gotten a worthless participation leaflet its not gambling?

Hey guys i have an idea on how to legalize gambling everywhere and for everyone! Because as long as you get something its not gambling!

[Super Kami Dende]

So if you got a lets say gambled on a horse, lost and gotten a worthless participation leaflet its not gambling?

Hey guys i have an idea on how to legalize gambling everywhere and for everyone! Because as long as you get something its not gambling!

The difference is you are Gambling on the specific Horse. With Lootboxes you aren't gambling on a specific item, you are taking the chance to get 1 of 50 items within a Box.

Comparing the 2 is idiotic and you should feel bad.

[Deleted]

Its simple really, if you give a random reward box in game it shouldnt be openable with real money or buyable outside of ingame currency and the currency should not be obtainable via real money. Think of the lockboxes in wow, they can still remain if the token was not real money tradeable so im afraid theyd have to go.
Regulating this will also kill guild wars 2 which built its model on random chance from a box for keys for crystals for real money. Same with neverwinter.

[Orange Joe]

Are lootboxes still fine after you watch this video;

No different than him going to a casino and losing it all.


personal responsibility and all.

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The difference is you are Gambling on the specific Horse. With Lootboxes you aren't gambling on a specific item, you are taking the chance to get 1 of 50 items within a Box.

Comparing the 2 is idiotic and you should feel bad.

Not seeing how that matters.

With horse you have a 1 in "how many horse there are" chance to win.

[Orlong]

Are lootboxes still fine after you watch this video;

13 year olds cant work and make their own money unless they are an actor (which make lots of money), so all this tells me is they have shitty parents. A good parent wouldnt give their kid credit card numbers, and would protect against purchases by enabling a PIN or password. Its not the game designer's fault

[Super Kami Dende]

Not seeing how that matters.

With horse you have a 1 in "how many horse there are" chance to win.

The fact you can't see the difference is why I don't discuss this kind of thing with randoms on the internet. They tend to struggle with simple concepts.

[GennGreymane]

No different than him going to a casino and losing it all.


personal responsibility and all.

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Not seeing how that matters.

With horse you have a 1 in "how many horse there are" chance to win.

"13 year old"
"going into a casino to lose it all"
Almost sounds like there is some rules/regulations about that.

[Dhrizzle]

Are lootboxes still fine after you watch this video;

Any source that isn't a couple of guys waffling on for over 10 minutes? Is it the same guy Kotaku reported on last week after he popped up on Reddit?

[Yunru]

Any source that isn't a couple of guys waffling on for over 10 minutes? Is it the same guy Kotaku reported on last week after he popped up on Reddit?

If you look at sources:
https://kotaku.com/meet-the-19-year-...tm_medium=feed
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBat...qh&sh=fb7b1992

(but yeh those 2 channel sucks, it just pop-up on my search)

[Orange Joe]

"13 year old"
"going into a casino to lose it all"
Almost sounds like there is some rules/regulations about that.

If he wasn't 18 it's on his parents not anyone else.

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The fact you can't see the difference is why I don't discuss this kind of thing with randoms on the internet. They tend to struggle with simple concepts.

translation, I can't counter your argument so I'm just going to claim victory.

[GennGreymane]

If he wasn't 18 it's on his parents not anyone else.

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translation, I can't counter your argument so I'm just going to claim victory.

Sounds like you want to avoid the issue.

[Orange Joe]

Sounds like you want to avoid the issue.

What issue am I avoiding?

[GennGreymane]

What issue am I avoiding?

Do the parents have the info of the inner workings of the game? Also you should read the full story.

[Orange Joe]

Do the parents have the info of the inner workings of the game? Also you should read the full story.

If they don't whose fault is that? As parents should they not be looking into it?


Is there a place I can read it and not watch a video?

[GennGreymane]

If they don't whose fault is that? As parents should they not be looking into it?


Is there a place I can read it and not watch a video?

Its been linked to my knowledge on this page, so good on ya.

Is the info readily available? Is it on the label? Is it something you can look into without having to ask reddit? Is it information you will see like other information you will see for products?